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The Chivalry Chronicles
Episode 043 - "Cigar Etiquette"
David, DLH, and Jaime discuss cigars.
- Do you know what cigars you like?
- Have you tried different type of cigars?
- First experience with cigars.
- When do you stop smoking a cigar?
- Smoking portrayed in movies.
- Tips for smoking a cigar.
Issue a verdict.
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SPEAKER_00:I'm a damn doctor, David.
SPEAKER_01:We're gonna bring the team to not drink during the podcast.
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SPEAKER_00:That is not Cowbell. That is more cowbell.
SPEAKER_02:So we're back here at the Chivalry Studios. AKA, my office upstairs. Once again, if you didn't know, every other Tuesday we put out a uh a podcast. So wherever you get your podcast, right? If you go to Apple, we're there. If you go to YouTube, we're there, Spotify. There's a bunch of other ones that I've never heard of, but they But we're there too. Yeah, we're there too. I mean, I don't know where you listen to yours. I saw on the link that it it said web browser, which I don't know what that is, but it shows up on you know when you look up the statistics and all that. It's kind of funny. But anyway, we thank you for stopping by. We thank you for listening to us. It's been a hell of a ride for us. And we're gonna continue doing it, right? As long as it's fun. Prime, prime uh music, we're on that too. Just so you know. What was the other one? Overcast. I'd never heard of it.
SPEAKER_00:Never heard of it.
SPEAKER_02:I downloaded the app. I was like, I'm gonna check it out. I only listen to ours, so I don't know what that's like. But as David is making his way in because he's late.
SPEAKER_03:As usual.
SPEAKER_02:As usual. He had to go take a potty break.
SPEAKER_01:You got my red MMs?
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Red MMs sound good right now.
SPEAKER_02:I know, because oh my god, yeah. So DLH just came back after his, you know, contract, yeah, negotiations. He he he became a doctor.
SPEAKER_00:Did I negotiate a good contract?
SPEAKER_02:We said nay.
SPEAKER_00:And he still showed up for work. Yeah. You drive a hard bargain, but alright.
SPEAKER_02:So we were sitting here wondering what to talk about, and then we started talking about cigars. And I was like, you know what, man? Let's talk about cigars. David. I had a question, but don't ask me what that question was, because No, so we were talking about. I know brothers that smoke every day. Like every day. Like they get up, fraternity brothers. Fraternity brothers, and they have a cigar with their coffee. And I don't know if I could do that. I don't know if I could do that. Like it's I love coffee in the morning, but man, that that's a lot. Like I was I was telling DLH, like, the most I've ever smoked is probably two days in a row. And even that was a bit much. And DLH, you were saying that it depends on the you know, kind of what that cigar is. Is it medium? Is it like you know, yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Well, he also said it it the occasions.
SPEAKER_00:The occasions matter for me, but but also I think the more that you learn about cigars too, you can start being a little more selective, right? Like when we get into holidays, and I know that I'm gonna meet with some family one day, some friends another day, some fraternity brothers another day, and all of them are somewhat in the cigar culture. You gotta keep up with the Joneses. Then there's then there's a likelihood that we're gonna smoke a cigar in those three consecutive days. So I have to be mindful of the cigar that I choose so that going into day two, I'm not in a cigar smoke bubble.
SPEAKER_02:You know, and that I think that's a great way to explain it. It's a bubble that it just sticks with you.
SPEAKER_00:It just stays with you overnight. You smell it in the morning, like you sc you know, and there's some cigars that will give you that.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:And I think that that's fine if you know that you're gonna have that one cigar that day, and I have no idea when I'm gonna smoke my next one, then that's fine. But if there's a high possibility that you're gonna smoke the next day, I would not choose one that you know is going to have that if effect on you.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, so uh there's there's a guy that I follow on YouTube. Uh I'll put his whatever link. But he he has a notebook that he fills out every time he smokes a new cigar. And then he'll add, you know, you know, what what kind of flavor is this? Or what kind of notes? Is it natural notes? Is it sweet notes? Is it nutty? Is it and he and he as he's smoking it, he'd say, Oh, oh, this is it's a little bit of chestnut. And I'm like, man, I don't know all that shit. I was like, But you know what? It's eye-opening if you do it. But my my thing is like, I I smoke cigars, been smoking cigars probably Joaquin's 19th, right around when Joaquin was born, is when I started. Man, I've never really gotten that deep into it to where I'm filling out, you know, like a little check.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, you're not you're not here to do work, you're here to enjoy it.
SPEAKER_02:I'm here to just enjoy. And but I know what I like and I don't I know what I don't like.
SPEAKER_00:Well, that this is where I'm gonna say now. Do you, right? And and before you answer that, let me tell you this. Do you what? Do you know what you actually like and what you don't? Because you know your habits, you know what you do smoke. But what I I I'll tell you this. My my journey on this sort of thing began too because my wife got me a whiskey journal. Okay, very similar situation, right? But every time you drink a whiskey, there are these pre-formatted pages where you talk about the flavor profile, the strength, like all the things you liked and didn't like, the you pick up. And and then you're forced to give it a grade. You grade the whiskey. And as I got all the whiskeys one at a time down the line, the things that I normally do. Does it tell you?
SPEAKER_02:But does it tell you the whiskey that you're like so you write it down? Okay, so you're just it's just a blank sheet with a blank format.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, it's a blank formatted. It's formatted, but you put in the name of everything and you start to do that. That's too much work, dog. Okay, but but here's but here's what here's what happened though. I started to do that, and because of like because I'm constantly drinking whiskey, right? I would I would rate the whiskey, and then there were some of the whiskeys that I found out that were in my regular rotation that it turns out that based on how I would grade it, I didn't like them. I just didn't like it. I would just drink it out of habit. It was something I would do.
SPEAKER_02:But why would you do that if you didn't like it?
SPEAKER_00:Because it was just something I did. It was like it was just something that was like, okay, I will occasionally have this or somebody will get it for me.
SPEAKER_02:That's now I'm gonna have to push back a little because if if I'm drinking something, like you drink it, you're like, okay, and then you kind of drink it and you're like, after a while, you're like, no, I don't like that. And then you move on, you go to the next one. Like, at I'm not gonna keep drinking it because I'm gonna guess I'm I'm like Well, beer is beer. Beer is beer. No, it's not, but you will keep drinking like the beer that you like, even that.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, I mean But but some of the times when you drink the the whiskey, right? I don't I like let me just choose one. Let's say Bullet. Okay. Bullet whiskey is is one of the ones that I would say.
SPEAKER_02:So so just to remind you, we're talking about cigars, but go ahead. Go ahead. But your whiskey.
SPEAKER_00:I'm just getting so I'm gonna give you I'm gonna give you just this example for for Bullet and then how it goes to because cigars are so much bigger than but when you go to a whiskey that's uh that's something like Bullet because you heard from somebody that it's good, you take that on because somebody tells you that it's good, and then you you start to drink it, and even if you're not complete and if you're not placebo particularly yes, if you're not particularly fond of it in the moment, it's more like okay, I just haven't reached a palate where it's as good as the person who told me that I that it should be, right? And then you start to test other whiskies, and then you start to recognize the differences between them. Right. What are they supposed to taste like? What do I what what flavor profiles do I actually like? Right. And when it comes down to it, it's not like any of the whiskies I was drinking were bad. There were just some that I don't prefer.
unknown:Right.
SPEAKER_00:And I was like, oh, well, then let me just take those out of rotation and then not mess with that. And it reduced the amount of whiskies that I would then focus on as much like my go-to.
SPEAKER_02:Right.
SPEAKER_00:And now within that I have different ones and it that's in a smaller range, right? That I normally go to based on how I want to drink it and when. Right. Cigars are a little bit the same way, but it's much more vast. Right? Wouldn't you agree?
SPEAKER_02:Oh, yeah, no, because like you can walk into a freaking cigar place like right on the street, and it's the whole freaking the whole room is nothing but cigars in there. Yeah. So it's it's like, fuck, what what do I pick?
SPEAKER_00:But now, do you like Connecticut? Do you like Maduro? Do you like Sumatra? Do you like what's the gauge that you like? What's the cut that you like? Yeah. Like a whole punch, a guillotine. See, I'm not a V cut.
SPEAKER_02:I'm not that particular about the gauge, but I don't want a smaller cigar. Like I wanna, I wanna smoke for 40 minutes, you know, like I don't wanna, you know, I need a good size cigar.
SPEAKER_00:So not a church hill, because a church hill's gonna take you like an hour, an hour and a half.
SPEAKER_02:But I have smoked those.
SPEAKER_00:Yes, but you gotta smoke them to know.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, no, no, and and and with with cigars like that, it's especially the so I have a friend that kind of gets me pretty nice cigars. You don't want to stop smoking. You you feel like you wasted it if you light it and you don't have the time to smoke it. So you you gotta make sure you gotta make sure you have the time. And I have smoked Churchill's and they're they're great, but you do you gotta you gotta block out some time.
SPEAKER_00:You gotta block out time.
SPEAKER_02:Now, torpedoes and that's those are just cool, but I mean, if you didn't give me one, I'd be like, whatever. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, big ass gauges. Sometimes it's like shit, do I even have a cutter that big?
SPEAKER_00:You know, it's like well, but even if you do, which one is the best cutter for it? Do you just use a hole punch, do you use a guillotine, or do you use a V cut?
SPEAKER_02:See, I've used a V cut more recently because the lighter that I had had a V cut. And I was like, I'm gonna try it.
SPEAKER_00:But but it changes the flavor.
SPEAKER_02:It changes a little bit, but but I'm not as as in tune with it to where I can tell you, oh yeah, yeah, we're two degrees over. And I got it's a V cut. Like I'm like, what the fuck? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_01:Like I would not that sounds like real exhausting.
SPEAKER_00:But you have it is okay, but you have had an experience. I'm I'm assuming. Like, are you gonna smoke or not?
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, are you just gonna keep writing shit down?
SPEAKER_00:Because you've you've smoked enough where I wouldn't say, and have you had an experience where you smoke a cigar and the first third will say the flavor of that burn is different than when you meet the when you reach the middle of that cigar. Yes. Then you get the real flavor of it, right? Right. And and so that though also gets altered when you have simply a hole punch because of the way that the smoke gets drawn through versus a V cut versus a guillotine, right? And like my my father-in-law, for instance, when he uses it, he prefers a guillotine cutter and he cuts almost the entire back end of the cigar off. And I'm like, that's too much, right? That's too much because it's not giving them churchs. No, but what it actually does is it dilutes the flavor of the of the tobacco, the taste that you're supposed to get. So you get a lot more smoke and a lot less flavor when you do that.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, there's a little cap at the end that that's what you're supposed to cut.
SPEAKER_00:Right. So if you if you and then V-cut the way that the smoke could draws through and the way that you light it, it will change the flavor of the cigar. Now, all these are it's minutiae. These are subtleties, right? If you're not in tune with the subtleties, you're not gonna notice. It won't really matter much.
SPEAKER_02:And and I would venture to say 90% of the smokers don't give a chance about that. They don't. They don't.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, because I I would I would think I don't. Honestly, I don't. I I I would think if you just lay out some cigars, right, and you you the tester knows which is which. One is a$30 cigar or whatever. I think you could feed some BS on a bullshit cigar, and some are gonna be like, oh damn, this is really good. Yeah, and I don't think you need it.
SPEAKER_00:You don't you certainly do that? And they may even choose.
SPEAKER_01:They may choose that that two dollar, they may pick that two dollar cigar over the$30 cigar.
SPEAKER_00:I would hope not.
SPEAKER_01:You would hope not. I would hope. But I I I bet I bet people would fall in that category. I think the same thing with with some drinks and s and so forth. Yeah. If it's got like a reputation, that's in your head. That's like the placebo effect. Yeah, it's the placebo effect. No, but I think anybody who smokes enough cigars.
SPEAKER_00:This is$30. Oh, no, you can't you can't taste a$30 cigar, but you can taste a$3 cigar. Oh, yeah. Absolutely.
SPEAKER_02:No, but you'll know. I don't know. A$30 cigar, I think you can. I don't know. I don't know that you can. So I've had pretty cheap cigars, right? Because uh I think I've told this story before. When I got a cigar from a from my coworkers, a friend of mine. We were at his baby shower at Joaquin was probably like six months, and I say, I gotta go, bro. Like it's getting late. This kid's gotta go to bed. He's like, Hey man, we're gonna have one smoke cigars. I'd never really smoked cigars then. He smoked those crap, right? Like people have weddings and shit and all that other crap. But he's like, Man, it's a really good one. He goes, You gotta smoke it tonight though, unless you have a humidor. And I didn't have a humidor. He's like, You gotta smoke it tonight. He goes, pair it with something, you know, like a whiskey or something. If you have whiskey, pair it with that, because you can't it it loses flavor if you do it with a beer. You know what I'm saying? Just it's just not the same. So he's like, if you have whiskey, pair it with a whiskey. And I was like, Cool. So I come home and I try it. And not knowing anything about cigars, I go, I was like, okay, cool. You know, you kind of was like, uh, that's cool. And then so I go to the cigar place it was called before it was I forgot, but it's right down the street, and I'm looking for that cigar, and there's nothing there. So I talked to the guys, hey, I'm kind of looking for this type, and he's like, Oh, well, try these. And I tried them, nothing, I didn't like them, right? I was like, This is crap, this is crap. Like, I did I don't get that that flavor, right? Or that the way that smoked, it smoked really well. Like the it was like it burned really evenly. It's just a bunch of stuff about it that was like, Man, and so I bought other ones, you know, when you smoke something and it's not packed well, yeah, like the air just kind of just flows through, like, what the fuck? You know. So then, you know, a couple of months later, I go back to my coworker. I was like, Well, all right, what what cigar was that? Because I can't find anything close to that. He goes, Yeah, those are pretty, you know, I can only get them through certain sources. I was like, All right, I'm down. Give me some. So then he started getting me those cigars, right? And there is a difference. Like, I was just telling you that.
SPEAKER_01:He was like, those three dollars that I'm gonna sell it to this pool for 30 bucks each.
SPEAKER_02:No, they were good. They were good because I tried so many. Now, when I go to to this place right here, I forgot what it's called because they closed down, which it sucked. Now I'm kind of in the like tatuaje of yours. I tried tatuaje, it's like Rocky Patel is really good. Like those are kind of you know, yeah, Patel is a reliable, yeah. Rocky Patel. But Tatuaje, Rocky Patel, and then there was another one I forgot because I used to go in there and just buy those two or three. But you know, when I when I listen to people talk about talk about cigars, I'm like, fuck, man. I'm not that, you know Deep into it. Yeah, I I'm not sitting here going, yeah, man, you can't do that. Or or hey, hey, hey, why are you using a lighter? You're only supposed to use matches, or you know, just like all that crazy stuff. Like, look, man, if you love that cigar, smoke that cigar. Smoke them if you got them. Do it. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, don't let like I'm not here to tell you that cigar is crap.
SPEAKER_00:No, I'm gonna tell you But there is a way to light it so that you don't so that you get the actual flavor.
SPEAKER_02:No, no, absolutely I mean, that's just saying, you know, yeah, you you don't drive with your feet. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, there's ways to do it.
SPEAKER_00:But you do drive with your feet.
SPEAKER_02:You know, you don't boo the steering with your foot. Like, this is like you don't do that. But yeah, there's certain protocol, but but if you like there's there's the so when my one of my friends came over and we're smoking, and I give him a cigar, and he like like licks the oh licks it lengthwise, yeah. No, like all the way around, and I'm like, why? What is going on here? I don't know. I don't know. I didn't I didn't bother to ask. I felt that that was a little intimacy, too much intimacy going on with him and the cigar. Slow the burn? Yeah, I was like Were you over there biting your nip while he was doing it? I was like, mmm. Like in Pulp Fiction, he said Okay, why what if you Google it real quick?
SPEAKER_00:Why would you lick a cigar?
SPEAKER_02:We should I think whether he was giving inappropriate uh results.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, what if you're saying cigar?
SPEAKER_02:I don't know how inappropriate that would be. I probably I would assume he's I don't know, trying to get a moist.
SPEAKER_00:Maybe just slow the burn down. But why? I don't know, Donna.
SPEAKER_02:Give it some humidity. I didn't, yeah.
SPEAKER_00:But the humidifier gives it humidity.
SPEAKER_02:No, no, but but do you have like are you a super Nazi about I'm not a Nazi in any form? Are you a super Nazi about my cigars have to be at 65?
SPEAKER_00:Oh when they're stored, yes, they do. They have to be between 68 and 70 degrees. You Nazi. Yeah. Well, yeah, because they But that's not that's not me. That's the the culture that's the best, that's the best temperature for them to be in.
SPEAKER_02:Mine is like at 70. Like because I buy the I buy the the the the little packs, I think Bravo or Bravado or whatever this called, the little packs. Yes. They they come in 60. It comes in 62, 65, 70, you know, they come in different hum humidity, like like the degrees. The level, yeah. And I buy mine high just because whatever. Which rainforest? I think it's 70 or 72, something, but they my humidor is like at 70 all the time.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Cuban cigars are supposed to be at 65 strictly. So if you have Cuban cigars, you and you get it up to 70, you're supposed to take it out and kind of leave it and let it cut. I don't do none of that shit. I go to my I go to my humidor, take it out, cut it, smoke, done. Like, you know. There's a lot of people out there that that Really are way too involved.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, I was gonna say I because I I I would suspect that it's just it's making us a story. Now you created some lore about oh you gotta keep it like this or keep it like that. I think some things are practical, but I think in other sense, a lot of stuff regardless of cigars or whatever. Yeah, no, but but if you well if it's got a story, it's more compelling.
SPEAKER_02:No, I I I guess I agree. But but what I think what we wanna what DL, I'm hoping DLH will kind of go into a little bit further, is there are things that you need to do. I've I had I had this kid over one time, right? It was like one of Liana's little boyfriends or whatever. He was over here at the house.
SPEAKER_00:It's just the way you said it.
SPEAKER_02:No, he he was over here at the house, and he knew that I smoked cigars, and he's like, hey, you know, I I've never smoked a cigar. Do you want, you know? And I was like, sure, I mean, we could go smoke a cigar. I don't no big deal. And so I I didn't think, which it's my bad, right? I didn't think to tell him you're supposed to do this, this is how you cut it. You know what I'm saying? Like it just I didn't think to like walk him through because one, he didn't ask. He didn't say, Hey, I don't know how to cut it, how do I cut it? Which is something that probably some people won't say, but I didn't tell him anything.
SPEAKER_00:Well, he wanted to seem which it was my bad.
SPEAKER_02:My bad, right? So he cuts it, right? But then he flips it and lights the end that he cut.
SPEAKER_00:Oh shit.
SPEAKER_02:Right, and that was like, Well, wait, wait, I was like, well, hold on, hold on. What do you was like, what are you doing? I was like, I'm lighting. I was like, no, no, toasting. I was like, hold on. I was like, I was like, I was like, put the put the lighter down. I was like, you cut this in, you light the other end. I I didn't think I had to explain that. But it it threw me for a loop, dog. I was like, I'd have thrown him out of the house. Yeah, and and I was like, okay, no, no, he goes like, oh shit. It goes, I just I was like, damn, my bad. Like I should have like you also don't want to treat people like idiots either, dog.
SPEAKER_00:Like But can you imagine the pressure? Like you're trying to you're trying to get in good with your kid on his way. And he's like, well, and then and then she tells him, Well, he I know he likes cigars. Okay, well, let me get in on that. And you don't know a damn thing that's happening.
SPEAKER_02:But I I don't know. Well, he's and they're kids, right? He's like probably like 24-ish. Ask questions, man.
SPEAKER_00:Like, no, but he doesn't want to seem incompetent. I think that's a very specific scenario.
SPEAKER_02:No, I know, but but to me, it's like there are certain ways that you have to. I mean, what I've read, what I was told, what you know, what I've looked up is like you cut basically the width of a dime on the back of the cigar. It's a cap back there. There's an actual cap that they when they when they roll it. The width of a dime. That's what I cut smaller. And you can, but if you go more than that, then you start not so it can unravel if you cut more. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, it can unravel. Yeah. But when you cut when you cut smaller, you also get uh a more strength and flavor. Right. And that's why the punch is, you know, it you can do certain things after that.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, you're going a little larger than a punch, right?
SPEAKER_00:Essentially.
SPEAKER_02:So I think if you want to go through that, that would be good because you know, I I didn't know people don't know. You know what I'm saying? It's just like if you're asking to smoke a cigar, I assume you have a saw it on TV at least. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. Well, but there's a lot of there's a lot of and we talked about it.
SPEAKER_02:What did you say?
SPEAKER_00:Your your brother called etiquette, but there is etiquette. There is a lot of etiquette.
SPEAKER_02:I know, but didn't you say your brother is a little a little too into it?
SPEAKER_00:Like not my not my my nephew. My nephew who has all the things. He has the little the little pig. Yeah, there's a there's a three-prong, I don't even know what to call it. It's like a like something that you can hold in your, you know, like three three fingers, right? And it has three very thin flowers, three very thin wire prongs that you put into the front of the cigar and you move it around in order to loosen the tobacco. Which I don't I don't know. Is that necessary? I do it does it have there's a there's two questions here. Does it have purpose? Yes. It has a specific purpose. Is it a really good cigarette? Is it necessary? I don't think so. Yeah. No. If you know that that you have a cigar that's going to come from someplace that is often inconsistent in how it's packed, then sure. Yeah, use it.
SPEAKER_02:That makes sense.
SPEAKER_00:But if you have to stop because the inconsistency of a pack is like the the front two-thirds of a cigar is fine, but the but the last third is too compact, yeah, it doesn't make any sense to let your to that your cigar burn out in order to loosen the tobacco because then there's etiquette in how you deal with the burnt the burnt tobacco, right?
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Because if you light, let me tell you anybody who's willing to try any of this stuff, if you if you don't light the cigar correctly from the beginning and you overburn right the tobacco at the beginning, you taste a lot of that bitterness in it. So if you don't light it right and you're like, no, the cigar's too bitter, it's possible that you just didn't light it correctly.
SPEAKER_03:Didn't light it or it's a bad cigar.
unknown:Right.
SPEAKER_00:Or you're tasting the bitterness of the burn. Or that, or you're smoking a three-dollar cigar.
SPEAKER_01:Or you lit up the the imp, the end that you just cut.
SPEAKER_00:Well, I mean, technically speaking, even if you even if you lit up. And I'm not gonna say any names because I don't want to shame that kid, but even if you lit the wrong end, essentially what you're just doing is that you have a much larger hole that the smoke is coming through, so you're gonna get less flavor, more smoke.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:So that's not necessarily wrong, but it but you're not gonna get the fli the the flavor that's meant to be so how how much or how much do you smoke of the cigar?
SPEAKER_02:Like do you smoke it down to the freaking the roach clip type or I do not so tell me where you stop smoking.
SPEAKER_00:You have to this is such an inexact science. It is, it is, but but it's important to gauge it, you have to gauge it based on your feel, right? Because a cigar in general, depending on the cigar, all the things matter. Yeah. But when you're smoking a cigar and you get down to the final third, you have to decide when the appropriate time is to stop. Because if you don't stop and you smoke it down to a little, call it a roach clip, right? A little nub, you're gonna taste nothing but bitterness. And bitterness is the lingering flavor that's gonna be left in your mouth.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, yes. So although some some cigars, I I know there's been some that I've smoked that as you get down almost to that nub, it's like tastes phenomenal.
SPEAKER_00:Maybe if you like the end of that cigar, but if you're somebody who doesn't like the char, the bitterness, the like the intensified flavor or heat that you're gonna get from it, is usually it's pretty intense when you get near the end, right? And so if you don't know that, I would if you consider the cigar in thirds, as soon as you reach the final third, you have to immediately start thinking about when am I just gonna let this burn out.
SPEAKER_02:Well, and the other thing is it gets really hot.
SPEAKER_01:It gets hot. Yeah. And that's kind of how I gauge. Well, if if it starts, if the flavor's not there that I'm looking for, now but the the heat is usually where I stop. But there's been times where it's like, man, this is really hot, but now I will tell you, I would tell you this.
SPEAKER_00:If you get a cigar that has a single band on it, yeah just one band, that's normally if you get really close to that, abandon the cigar. That's it. Yeah, the band is yeah, right. And if you take the bands off, that's fine, but just know it kind of where it was so that you know when to stop. Yeah. If it has multiple bands on it because it's doing it for decor or whatever, you can take the front ones off. You can take the front ones off, and the one that's closest to where you're smoking from is the one that you want to use as a cage.
SPEAKER_02:You know what I really find a nuisance is when they put a like a cap, like a band at the bottom. Like, don't do that shit.
SPEAKER_00:Take that shit off. Like the lighting end?
SPEAKER_02:At the end, like I hate that shit because you're sitting there fucking around with that shit. Yeah, especially.
SPEAKER_01:What are you talking about? So Oh, they put that little humidity thing. No, no, no. It's a little band.
SPEAKER_00:It's a cigar, but you know the band that's always on a cigar. But sometimes at the very lighting, the lit end where you light it, they'll put a band of something there. Ribbon, cedar, something. Yeah, but that cedar is to keep the moisture. Yeah, most of the time. It is, but it just adds another thing that you have to remove in order to get it.
SPEAKER_01:I I I don't know that I've ever seen it with the like a ribbon, but I've seen it with like a wrap of cedar.
SPEAKER_02:Okay. Do you keep your ring, like the little bands of the of the cigars you've smoked?
SPEAKER_00:I did in the beginning. Whenever I would smoke a cigar, if I smoked it and if it was something that was kind of like, I don't really know if I liked it or not, then I didn't really bother. But if I smoked a cigar and I was like, wow, I am really impressed by this thing, I would keep it because then I knew which one it was. Yeah, which one it was and what my gauges for what a good cigar is.
SPEAKER_01:So yeah, the little swisher sweet bands.
SPEAKER_00:Definitely not.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, I kept from the oil de Monterrey as like the little band. Yeah. Because up to that point, which was like a couple years into it. Oh shit, party time, baby.
SPEAKER_01:It's time to smoke. What did y'all say? Y'all said something. Y'all said something that S-I-R-I kicked in. Whatever. I swear it. You saw it. You saw my phone light up. Nah, bruh. That's all you. We're gonna get it. Why why is that in your ringtone notes?
SPEAKER_02:Don't play with Katie, because then you can't record this thing. Yeah, you can. So I kept it because for for like the first couple of years, that was what I felt was the best cigar I'd ever smoked. And I kept one of because I had bought probably like eight. We there's two other friends of mine that we kind of split a box. And so the what sucks is like one of us is gonna get the ninth cigar, right? Because there's 25. Is it like getting the the butt of the of the bread?
SPEAKER_01:No, is you get an extra cigar extra. Oh, okay. I got it.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, and so and so it's it's never a I I'll take the you know, I'll go ahead and I volunteered tribute to get that. It's always like he just you know flips a coin or whatever. Yeah, so I I kept one of those cigars forever. Like, and then it wasn't until like a couple of years ago that I was out, like I didn't have any more cigars. I was like, fuck, I was supposed to, I was gonna save this for like, you know, quote unquote. But I'm like, today, it's raining today, baby. So now I'm like, I used to keep one cigar out of that that I thought were really good, but you know, now I just smoke them all. Fuck it. Yeah, I mean I don't have enough time anymore and you should.
SPEAKER_00:Cigars are so diverse at this point that you know, like honestly, for for my general practice, right? Let's say outside of the scenario where I know that I'm gonna smoke because of company or whatever, I don't smoke very often on my own, but throughout, let's say not I don't smoke every day. So, like I do on my own all the time, don't I? Well, I smoke on my own, yes. But for me, like it's not like gonna be like every day of the week, right? Most of the time I go through my work week, and when I hit anything that to me feels like an accomplishment, maybe I did something work-wise where I finished it or I got over a certain hump. Yeah. Right. And then I reached that, and that afternoon is where I'm gonna go sit in my favorite spot to go and smoke. And I'm gonna serve, I'm gonna put, you know, get me some whiskey, and I'm gonna choose a specific cigar, something that I know is gonna pair well with that whiskey and that I'm gonna enjoy, and then I'll go outside. But there are other times that if I know that I'm there's a high likelihood that I'm gonna smoke, right? Even if I'm gonna have whiskey, but I don't know, either in an adventurous mood or it doesn't matter specifically what I smoke, then I'll do a sort of a cigar roulette, if you will. I have a bunch of different types of cigars, so I will just kind of put my hand in the in the humidor. In the humidor, the carousel, sure. And then and then I just I take out whatever amount, like either for me, if I'm just smoking for myself, whatever cigar comes out, and then I'll smoke that, and then I'll take note of what I'm smoking.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:If I know that I'm gonna be in other company or whatever, that then I'll take out it like today, right? Like I brought some cigars here. Yeah, I'm just gonna stick my hand in there, I'm gonna pick out three cigars, and whatever comes up, that's what we got. Right? Yeah, and then you learn from that. You just smoke whatever you take note of what you're smoking.
SPEAKER_01:So are you guys going, are you guys dipping back into the same cigar? Or are you consistent, more consistently changing cigars? Because the variety's there, but you could always go with the same brand, same same cigar. Like, are you going that route or are you guys really randomly picking based on what you know of your base, your your your favorite? You want to take a flavor?
SPEAKER_00:Because I got an answer, but you can't.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, so when I was kind of looking for what I was looking for, right? You you I tried a bunch of them, and then I kind of settled on these three. These three different brands, and these three different, and they're usually Maduros, right? They're that's what I've kind of like. You know, not that I won't try something else, but I stick to these three, and then when I go buy them, I usually do Tatuaje or Racky Patel, or there was another one that I and the guy there, you know, you I got a membership of one of these places, and they just fancy. It's 20. You got that doctor money? Doctor money. Doctor money. They and they keep they keep a record of everything that you've that you bought, and so you're just like, What did I get last time? And they're like, Oh, you got these three. I was like, Cool, I'll just try those. That friend of mine that gets cigars.
SPEAKER_01:But you're not trying those anymore if you're getting the same one. Huh? You're not trying anymore. No, because sometimes uh Oh, you're saying they branch off from that.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, so he'll say, I know that the see the place that used to be here was real, it was uh the humidor. It's called Club Humidor. The lady that owned it was like freaking badass. Like she was one, was always smoking. Anytime I it didn't matter when I walked in, she had a cigar. And of course, you know, like any other place that you go, they you walk in, they're like, Hey, how can I help you? And all this and that. And then you just kind of tell them kind of what you're if you know. Sometimes you're like, hey, I want to try a little bit different. This is what I've gotten before. And they're like, okay, cool. They're so good at their job, they're like, okay, try these. These are kind of the same flavor, the same realm, right? The same kind of so try these. And then so I would. And then when I go back, they're like, What did you think? I was like, Well, you know, I didn't like that, or I did, or whatever. So I would do that sometimes. But but it it always takes someone that knows exactly what they're talking about. And when you meet those people, they're freaking, you know, they save you a lot of money.
SPEAKER_00:Once yeah, they're incredibly useful.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, yeah, and so I sit there and talk to them and you know, kind of get as much information as possible. But with a friend of mine that that just gets cigars, I I don't have a choice. I just tell him, I'm in, or he'll call me, is that I might go get some cigars. You want some? I'm like, I'm in, and then he gets me whatever. And not one time have I said this cigar is crap. You know, they're all really good. So I just get, hey, you know, here's what we got. Cool. You know, we got partagas or we got, you know, I think the ones that we got here recently. I didn't I hadn't never gotten it before. It's a specific cigar, but anyway, it you know, I don't have a like I'm only gonna get this. I usually talk to the people because they usually know what they're talking about, and so I just ask them, this is what I normally smoke, and then they'll give me something similar. Try this one. DLH?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, I'm I I think I I think the easiest way to relate to it conceptually is like food, right? Like you when you go someplace and if you know that there is a specific uh way that you want to experience food, right? Like I'm not feeling adventurous today, but I want to get something that I know that I'm gonna like, and it's gonna be between these three foods that I that I normally go to. And we're at a place where I know they're good quality. You always know your home base, so you would get one of those three cigars. But there are some times when you're going out to a restaurant, and I don't know, whatever the atmosphere is, and maybe you feel a little adventurous, and let me try something different. Something that I've always been kind of curious about. Let me try that. And I and I think it's important to be open to that because then you may try something that you wouldn't normally try that you would be really surprised by, and then it expands your palate, it expands your options, right? And then those are the things that you eventually equate into it where it's like, all right, well, I'm feeling somewhat adventurous, but not completely. Then let me try something that I know is outside of my top three, but that is going to be something that is outside the box a little bit, but calculate it. Yeah, right. And then the times when you reach a point where you're like, you can throw whatever you want at me because that's the mood I'm in. I'm adventurous.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Then you try something completely different out the outside the box, something you've never tried before, or that's uh for you, maybe maybe even the opposite of what you normally gravitate towards, just so you can experience that. Yeah. And and I think that that serves multiple purposes. You get to you get to have a cigar that is way outside of your realm and know what that experience is. And it either's like it it kind of strengthens your base of what you you know you like, but it also gives you a unique experience, and it it can potentially expand the palate. And there's room for all of them. It just then at that point it's like, okay, when do I normally feel this sort of adventure is? Is it is it around holidays? Is it when I'm with my fraternity brothers? Is it when you know, like whatever it is, and then you kind of know what's the greatest enjoyment you're gonna get out of a certain type of cigar in a certain situation, and then you get to maximize that experience. So it's a great adventure.
SPEAKER_02:Did you either the so when whenever you start smoking cigars, I mean it with me, it kind of just happened. I did kind of think it like we were talking about this. When you watch movies, right? I always think smoking is cool. Like I just think it looks cool, like well that that was purposely done back in the day. Yes, and it worked. Yeah, like like with me, like when I saw my dad smoke, you know, when I was a kid, I was like, that looks so cool. Like, because people that smoke, especially if you know how to smoke, like the way they light, the the way they, you know, like people smoke, yeah. Yeah, like they could they blow smoke through their nose. I mean, just a bunch of like cig cigarettes, right? My dad never smoked cigars or. Stuff like that. But anytime, like say you're watching a movie, I know Arnold Schwarzenegger usually smokes a cigar in in some of his movies. Like he kind of that's what he does. Andy Garcia smokes cigars in his movies. Like there's certain and they look so cool. And it's always they're always in a tux.
SPEAKER_01:Hair slick.
SPEAKER_02:They're always, yeah, hair slick back. They're always the smoking jackets. Like it just looks cool. So when I was a kid, like I we read comic books, right? Wolverine was my favorite comic book character. Wolverine smokes cigars. So to me, it's like I know it's wrong, right? And he smokes.
SPEAKER_01:I didn't know that, but does Wolverine do a V cut with his blade?
SPEAKER_00:No, no. I guarantee. I guarantee Wolverine is a guillotine cut. And he smokes it down to the nub.
SPEAKER_02:He does. And he and he chews on it. Have you seen people chew on the cigars? Yeah. Which I never understood. Usually old guys.
SPEAKER_00:Yes, but that's an oral fixation.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. But they chew on, and they're usually at H E B.
SPEAKER_00:Yes. But that because they're not lit. You can usually tell when somebody just has the oral fixation because it doesn't need to be lit. They're just chewing onto the end of the cigar.
SPEAKER_02:I never got. I never understood that. And I and you don't want to try it. It's nasty.
SPEAKER_00:Like it's just not a good habit to get into.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. The other thing that I thought was kind of funny is like back in old movies, right in the 60s and 70s, anytime there was a berth, people would give cigars. And so I've had those cigars, right?
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, people still do that. Yes. Usually it's bubblegum.
SPEAKER_02:I'm for I think. No, no, no. Bubblegum. Like I'm bubblegum cigars. Yeah, no, I know what you're talking about.
SPEAKER_00:No, but if we're talking real cigars, then they normally have either a pink or a blue band or something.
SPEAKER_02:Exactly. No, I've I've gotten and I've had those cigars too. Like I've I have gotten they're usually not. They're not great. These are$30 cigars? No.
SPEAKER_00:Those are like the$3 cigars. No, they cost a lot.
SPEAKER_01:Have you ever raised a kid? Yes. There you go. Yes, I have. Were those$30 worth or are they a lot more?
SPEAKER_00:Well, they're$3 cigars that somebody charged you more for. So they could put the band on it. So PSA, buy your own damn cigars. Yeah. Don't worry about the color band that's on it. Pass them out at will. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:And I and I thought that was cool. One day I was, you know, when you start kind of smoking cigars and your your feed starts kind of giving you more cigar info. This happened to me probably like 15 years ago, or whatever, when I started smoking. I I read a it was just kind of the tidbit on JFK, right? John F. Kennedy. And he put an embargo on Cuban cigars. Cuban cigars, yeah. Right. And this was like 1962. But before he placed the embargo, he's like, I need to load up about 1200. And they got him 1200 Uppmanns, like he stocked up, and I was like, great move, Mr. President. That's so freaking that is so bad. Give me 1200 and then put the shit in.
SPEAKER_01:Well, I I I've uh spoke to people. Well, this is this has been years ago. I would say probably eight plus years now. But they were telling me when they when they go to Cuba, they're bringing them, they'll they'll bring like a hundred cigars, but the key or the trick is you have you just need to ensure that you're telling them it's for personal. Oh yes. But you can but it the there's a limit uh and I think it's a hundred. Yeah. So that's that's usually what they would do.
SPEAKER_02:Well, I know one of our brothers was coming back with some cigars and he didn't declare them or something, and they just tossed them in the trash can. Dang! It was bad, dog. I was like, damn.
SPEAKER_01:He goes, Yeah, and I was trying to bring back some cigars. I I know what that feels like, but with whenever I went to Peru, I came back, I had those bottles, and I put two in my for some reason in my head, even though I know the rules. Yeah, the rules is you can't carry on liquor, right? I had it reversed, so there I stuck it in my carry-on, thinking this is the way to do it, and right at the gate. Sorry, you gotta take those out. Wrap them up, and then you can put them at the bottom of the plane, like that's cool. No, sir, sorry, we have to throw them away. Too late. And it was just oh my god. And I was like, Well, hopefully, at least one of y'all take it, because just for it to be trashed is terrible. I just spent sixty dollars on that. Come on. Oh man, that's your bad. Yeah, it was, it was all me.
SPEAKER_02:So what the other thing they do is they'll take off the bands so they look like you know, yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, I went, I I know whenever I went to Jamaica and stuff, I had bought some Cubans, and that was the that's what they told me. They're just like take take off the bands and then just tell them you got them here.
SPEAKER_00:I think uh if if anybody's gonna get into cigars, there's a lot. There's a lot of information to take in.
SPEAKER_02:Don't worry about it.
SPEAKER_00:Uh I I yeah, actually, I think that's good advice in the beginning. Start somewhere, anywhere.
SPEAKER_01:We don't advise smoking. Right. With there is a nightcode.
SPEAKER_02:We do have a nightcode on this.
SPEAKER_00:What does the nightcode say on this? What? You don't remember the nightcode. What's the nightcode? Tell me the nightcode, tell me what it says. Okay. So I can say it's wrong.
SPEAKER_02:No, no, you're gonna agree. You're gonna agree right now. We'll see. All right, here we go. Nightcode number 35.
SPEAKER_00:Number 35, all right.
SPEAKER_02:Brothers who are not cigar smokers shall have the common decency, at the very least, to pretend to understand and enjoy cigars. Okay, and then it's corollary number one. Yeah, it off if offered a cigar, you must attempt to smoke to completion. Corollary number two, if offered an expensive cigar, and you know you will not take more than a couple of puffs, politely decline. Decline. Be prepared to be chastised the rest of the night.
SPEAKER_00:Board approved. Uh you know what? That's what I think that's probably one of the few ones that I've done. What you agree with all of it? I pretty much agree with all of that, right there.
SPEAKER_02:And this was because I told the story that we went to a freaking high school reunion, my my wife's, and we met her friend, one of her friends from high school, and he was married to this jackass dude. I didn't know it was a jackass at the time. And he's like, Oh, you smoke cigars. I was like, Yeah, I'm a smoke, dude, a little dabbling and smoking. It's like, oh man, I only smoke Cuban cigars. I only smoke Cuban cigars. And I was like, Okay, cool. That's a red, that's a red flag right here. And then so we were coming back, so Letty was really good friends with this with this lady, and she was really nice. She was, you know, good people. And so we was like, hey, we're just because they it happened right down the street. It was like 10 minutes away. He was like, Well, our house is right here, let's go. And so, you know, we're smoking a cigar, right? I was like, Oh, you know, I'll get a couple of cigars. And this mofo did exactly that. Took a couple of puffs, and then I didn't see what he did with it. I was smoking mine, and then there was other people here, so you don't really know what's going on. And then I finished mine, I you know, left it there, a little ashtray or whatever. We walk inside, and then the next day I'm I'm cleaning up outside, and I open my grill, full cigar dog. A whole ass cigar. I was like, ah, you mother. We've never seen him again, so it's all good. But still, you lost a need to put a hit on that puto. So that that's what prompted this. I was like, come on, man.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, that I mean that's we had a there was a lot of casualties at at one of our golf turn. Oh my god, yes. We had a we had a brother, a gracious brother that was giving cigars to anybody that wanted nice cigars, and there were people taking them, probably doing two, three puffs on them and just leaving them stranded on the fairway.
SPEAKER_02:It was bad. And so they didn't they did not know nightcode number 35.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:So that's pretty bad. Where's my belt? Yeah, I think that's the only nightcode we have on smoking cigars. So therefore, DLH, do you have any pointers for anybody starting cigars? First, how do you light a cigar?
SPEAKER_00:Very carefully. Very carefully.
SPEAKER_02:Do you lick all of it?
SPEAKER_00:No, no, no. You don't need to lick it. Just stick it. That's a different episode, sir. Oh shit. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Wrong one. I'll be back.
SPEAKER_00:When you if I I would say if you use a torch lighter, it's gonna be easier. Yes. You need to hold the torch lighter far enough away that you're not torching actually burning the tobacco, but you will see the flame, like the the end of the tobacco being lit. Right. Okay. If you go all the way around it to do your best to sort of get heat on all that uh tobacco in the beginning, if you need if it's not fully lit, you'll know if you turn it the burnt end towards you and blow it. And if you blow on it and it the entire circle is lit, then you're good. Then you're good. If it's not fully lit, then you can turn on the flame and then put the cigar in your mouth. You can begin to puff, but you do not put the flame close to it. It has to be further away and and and then ideally not directly towards it.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, I think I think if you just hold the the cigar away from you and light the end and then puff it and never turn it down. You'll get there. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:It that's the easiest way to do that and not taste all the burnt in, right?
SPEAKER_02:But you just you just sometimes you get little runners and you have the you know, like where one end kind of picks up more than the other.
SPEAKER_00:Yes, but even if it's burned even if it's an uneven burn, as you continue to smoke it, it'll even out. So I wouldn't sweat that much. You're you just don't want to burn the beginning of it.
SPEAKER_02:Correct.
SPEAKER_00:So there's that right there. The what else? You there's a rule. I can't even remember the timing of the rule. I never really have an issue with it, which is why I don't remember the timing. There's a certain amount of puffs or draws that you should take on cigar so that so that it doesn't turn out.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. Yeah, I don't know that.
SPEAKER_00:Right. It's like it's like at least three puffs every minute. You have to take in a draw.
SPEAKER_02:Well, yeah, I think you'll figure that out. But yes.
SPEAKER_00:Yes, but if you don't pay attention to it, it'll turn out. And if it turns out, if you try to relight it as it is and there's burnt ash on the end, then you start you start the bitter flavor. Yeah, yeah, right. If it turns all the way out, you're actually supposed to cut off all of the burnt stuff and then relight it. Yes over and over.
SPEAKER_02:So which is harder. Do you try to keep as much ash? Yes, like I used it. The cherry.
SPEAKER_00:That's what it's called. The cherry. If you just let it burn, you don't try to ash it into the ashtray. You just let it burn as long as it can.
SPEAKER_02:What's the longest ash you'd think you've done?
SPEAKER_00:Oh man, easily about an inch and a half, and then it falls off on its own. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:But it's it's when you when you when you have a good cigar, that's it.
SPEAKER_00:When you have a good cigar, it it makes it. You're gonna find that the cherry is much longer than when you have a lesser cigar.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. And you'll start figuring that out. But but it they're they're packed so well that it and when it burns so evenly that it that when you look at the ash, it just you see these layers.
SPEAKER_00:Yes. It's kind of layers, yeah, and they're and they should be gray white, not black. If they're all black, there's a problem.
SPEAKER_02:There is a problem. Yeah. So don't don't flick the don't flick the ash.
SPEAKER_00:No, just let it let's let it stay on as long as you possibly can because it insulates the heat and it keeps the burn optimally on the cigar. What else is there? Etiquette-wise. When it comes time to let the cigar burn out, you do not put it out like you might a cigarette. You just leave it in the ashtray so that it doesn't catch anything on fire and you let it burn out on its own.
SPEAKER_01:Yes. So to put that in a nutshell, do as Usher would do. Let it burn. Let it burn. Let it burn. Let's kill me right now.
SPEAKER_02:Here's something really, really important. Do not inhale. God. That was bad. But do not inhale.
SPEAKER_01:That's what you said.
SPEAKER_02:That's not at all what I said.
SPEAKER_01:Could sum it up. That's no, that's what you said. You said let it burn like that.
SPEAKER_02:That's what you heard.
SPEAKER_01:Deep down, I know.
SPEAKER_02:That's what you heard. Don't inhale. Just so you know, it you will get sick.
SPEAKER_00:I don't think I've ever given a bigger eye roll in my life. Let it burn. Let it burn. That's terrible. But diversify it. Try it. If you don't know if you're gonna like it, try it anyway.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Right? Give it a good shot. Do your best to light it correctly. Know that the first third is not gonna be the optimal burn. It's gonna be the middle of the cigar that you're gonna get the most flavor out of. Yeah. If you don't like it in that middle third, you're not gonna like it. So learn from it and move on. But I think if you're gonna be somebody who's just constantly adventurous, then try whatever you want. If you're somebody who's going to try and get to a point where you'd like to have a cigar that you want, then you have to start taking note of some of the things. Is it torpedo? Is it a church hill? Yeah, Robusto, Corona. Robusto, yes, all right. Pyramid. I mean, there's so many things. And then, you know, is it is it a Connecticut? Is it a Maduro? Is it a Sumatra? Is it, you know, like the you'll learn the language once you're in it. If you want to know any of that stuff in a faster fashion, feel free to text us.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, text us. There's a link on the respond to our social media and ask us a question. So so the the darker Google it. Yeah. The darker the leaf. The darker the leaf, the that's usually the stronger it is, for the most part. Like if it's maybe.
SPEAKER_00:For the most part. But you can also mitigate that with the cut. So even if you like a stronger flavor, which is a stronger, which is a darker leaf, the darker leaf is going to have a stronger flavor. Right. But if you but it also changes the flavor when you do a punch versus a guillotine versus a V cut.
SPEAKER_02:Right. So there you go.
SPEAKER_01:What are y'all approving?
SPEAKER_02:We are approving. Smoke cigars. Real men smoke cigars. Oh man. Try it. You know. Well, you should you should at least know your way around it. Even if you don't smoke, at least know the etiquette part of it, know how to cut a cigar. Don't inhale. Don't get sick. That'd be a terrible way to get it.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, do not inhale.
SPEAKER_02:Know the basics of it. You know, rotate the cigars, you're lighting it, that type of stuff. And have a good time with it. I mean it's cool to find people that smoke cigars. You can go out and I mean there's so many places to smoke cigars.
SPEAKER_00:And if you're a fraternity brother, hit us up. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, we're gonna be smoking at Fink's on uh and and and we'll join you and we'll give you a little etiquette less. And don't forget, Nightcode 35. There you go.
SPEAKER_00:What the hell? That's a weird one.
SPEAKER_02:It is. Do the other one. Do the other one.
SPEAKER_00:Okay, let me do the other one.
SPEAKER_01:It's because the other one doesn't come up.
SPEAKER_02:Ah, that's better. That's better. No, no. Nope. Okay, y'all don't need to stop. Thank you for listening. If you enjoyed this episode and you'd like to help support the podcast, please share it with others, post about it on your social media, and or leave a rating and review. To catch all the latest from us, you can follow us on Instagram and X. So thanks again, and we'll see you next time.
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talkingsopranos@gmail.com (podjams)
Drink Champs
The Black Effect and iHeartPodcasts