The Chivalry Chronicles
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The Chivalry Chronicles
Episode 034 - "Vacation"
DLH, David, and Jaime discussing vacationing.
- Flight Websites
- Flying vs Driving
- Travel Horror Stories
- Things you like about road trips
- Games you play on road trips
- Vacation spots
- Discuss what a vacation means
- Beach Talk
Issue a verdict.
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SPEAKER_03:I'm a damn doctor!
SPEAKER_02:David.
SPEAKER_01:I refuse to not drink during the podcast.
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SPEAKER_00:All right. Hold on, I've got to get the bottle open. Oh, come on.
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SPEAKER_01:From my pint to yours. Is this a pint? Yes, sir. Yeah, that's what it is. I have a liter.
SPEAKER_02:So, you know, we're sitting there. Hold on, man. Man. Yeah. Look at that. Look at those waves, you know, just. Oh, man. Isn't that great? Summer
SPEAKER_03:breeze makes me feel. The mist from the ocean. It's
SPEAKER_02:so good, man. It's so good. The clear water, the white sand, powdery sand.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. Okay, I'm going to go to sleep. I'm going to go to sleep. Okay, let's
SPEAKER_02:go. I
SPEAKER_00:was like, where are we
SPEAKER_02:right now? Santa Rosa Beach in Florida. So today we're going to talk about vacation. I know summer's wrapping up. And you know, most of the time people go on vacation in the summer. I know we did. DLH, what's the last vacation you had?
SPEAKER_00:Florida.
SPEAKER_02:Where exactly?
SPEAKER_00:I went to Fort Lauderdale in June.
SPEAKER_02:Nice. Oh, but that was your graduation, wasn't it?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, it was my my graduation but we extended that a little so that we had beach time
SPEAKER_02:nice
SPEAKER_00:so it was both graduation and vacation
SPEAKER_02:okay and then David, where'd you go? Costa Rica or
SPEAKER_00:something? I went
SPEAKER_01:to Spain.
SPEAKER_02:Oh, that's right. That's
SPEAKER_00:close, though.
SPEAKER_02:It's along the way. So I know that David travels all the damn time because he's like, I'm going to be out of town. Do you have, like, I know, okay, personally, I don't plan a damn thing. I'm a passenger princess when it comes to planning. Now, I know I got shit about this at our poker tournament that we drove to Destin, which is, or Santa Rosa Beach, which is right now, which is 13 hours from San Antonio. He's like, why'd you drive? And I was like, because it's expensive to fly. He's like, man, you should just pay it. And I was like, no, I'm good. How did you drive 13 hours? But anyway, for you, like I know you plan everything, but is there a certain routine that you have when you plan a trip? I mean, what do you look at? When do you go? Do you look at rates and stuff like that?
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. I mean, price does come into play for sure, but I really hone in on the timeframe. I like to go on spring break and leverage that as a good time for me work-wise as far in terms of my son having that at least a full week off, but turn that into a bigger vacation. so whenever it comes to planning i kind of essentially throw some some places in mind and then i start researching the different angles that come with it so if i was to fly there how much travel time is it going to eat up right because that's going to eat away at some of that vacation time right if if if i do fly what is it what is the cost there versus if i choose this other destination that type of stuff and then ultimately once i hone in on one then I just start really looking at where should we go that type of stuff and then what I've learned over the years is not to like oversaturate like having an oversaturated agenda because the most memorable things that I can recall on just about every vacation that I've been on even as a child it's the impromptu stuff that just kind of happens organically
SPEAKER_00:yeah man the go with the flow
SPEAKER_01:yeah the go with the flow so I am I fall into the go with the flow things the vacations that I enjoyed the least even though I did like them are the ones that have like all these itineraries you gotta do this I like going on cruises for example and I've been on cruises and I'm open to doing them in the future but I don't like all the you're either choosing to eat at 6 or you're choosing to eat at 8 you're gonna do this at this time they're gonna have this show at this time and then you gotta just kind of Yeah. Now, since you're
SPEAKER_00:somebody who travels a lot, you do all this research. What have you found are the best tools for that?
UNKNOWN:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:I definitely like looking at Google flights and choosing the explore tab. So whenever you choose the explore tab on Google flights, you can just put in like a month and the more flexible you can be with travel, the better the deal you're going to get.
SPEAKER_00:I've never even heard of Google. Yeah. No, it's, it's, it's really,
SPEAKER_01:it's really awesome in the, in the sense that you can choose a destination and you can do this also with boy, it's going to come to, it's, it's a, an app. Son of a gun. Kayak. Kayak has an explorer destination. If you can do a last minute travel, a lot of this has to do with if your time frames are really flexible, you're going to get the biggest bang for your buck. With Google Flights, you can say, hey, I want to travel in March or I want to travel in June. Here in San Antonio, in March, where's the best deals for flights? You can view it from a global standpoint so you can see all the different destinations and be able to view on this world map okay if i flew from here to spain it's five hundred dollars round trip versus if i flew to mexico it's eight hundred dollars which that's usually the opposite right but uh those those are some really handy tools yeah that i that i leverage the ai stuff has really helped in that it gives you some really solid ideas and then you can kind of click the links within right within that ai tool to explore it further and determine if it's a route you want to do or not what's what's like a ballpark flight cost
SPEAKER_02:round trip per person like what can i expect
SPEAKER_01:domestically yeah
SPEAKER_02:from here to like let's say nashville or let's say destin just as a comparison
SPEAKER_01:yeah so so so you're probably looking at something like per person three to 350 round
SPEAKER_02:trip
SPEAKER_01:round trip
SPEAKER_02:which is what i you know because i looked it up like i don't know three or four years ago and so that's what i was saying at the poker tournament i was like i'd be spending for four of us you know like anywhere between 12 to 15 you know it's like well it's a time and i get that i mean it's 13 hour drive uh we do it non-stop i mean we stop for gas and stuff like but we don't stop for longer than 15 20 minutes yeah and i don't mind driving i actually like driving
SPEAKER_01:yeah i do too
SPEAKER_02:and and there's certain things that i do well they were asking me what did you let your son i was like no Nope. What about your wife? Nope. We leave here at 4 or 5 a.m. and get there at 5 o'clock or whatever, depending on traffic and stuff like that. But I was like, yeah, that's 13 hours, so you lose pretty much a whole day. I go, but flights, you're spending, let's say, 12 to 15, and you're probably going to save some time, six to eight hours maybe, because you got to get there two hours before the flight. And then you have to, you know, then you take the flight. It's probably a three hour flight to Florida, I assume. And maybe without a, if you don't go to Atlanta, cause one year we flew to Orlando and they took us to Atlanta, then to Orlando.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. A lot of, a lot of it has to do with, is it going to be a direct flight? Cause to me there is a cost benefit when you, when you look at it. So if, if you knew you could get a direct flight from San Antonio to Destin, which you can't, but if, if you could, you know, Maybe it makes more sense. Yes. Now it's your, your, what is it? You said 12 hours? Yeah. Okay. So your 13 hour now becomes essentially you save 10 hours. That's 10 hours of doing. I don't know about 10 hours. Well, if, if there was a flight that went directly from San Antonio, Destin, it'd be two hours.
SPEAKER_02:I know, but you have to get there an hour before, right? Or an hour and a half before the flight to the airport.
SPEAKER_01:That's I arrive on a domestic flight, I will arrive 15 minutes before. But like I said, you, but before boarding, let me rephrase
SPEAKER_00:that. And you have the pre-check though, right? Yes.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. But that's what I'm saying though. Like, like we talked about before you could drive with your feet, but you know, it's not advisable. So to, to be, to prepare, you'd have to get there an hour. Let's just say anytime I've flown, I've gotten there an hour before. So you get there an hour before you take your flight, let's say it's two to three hours. And then it's another, what an hour to get all your shit and get a car and all that
SPEAKER_01:yeah well let's say you you say that you're you're still saving at least eight hours yeah and eight hours eight hours you can do a lot with those eight hours
SPEAKER_00:but i could also argue that when you are not amongst a bunch of strangers in a plane and only amongst your family within a vehicle yeah there's a lot that can be
SPEAKER_02:yeah because because the other thing i was saying i was like well then now we because we take you know stuff to eat during the day like at the beach and We take stuff to make breakfast with. So now I'm spending, buying all that shit when I get there. Beer or whatever. You know what I'm saying? Because you can't take all that stuff on the flight. So I haven't done the numbers, but... until I do that, then, then you can convince me. No, I'm a numbers guy,
SPEAKER_01:right? Yeah. And I'm, I'm telling you, I'm telling you if, if, if you really start taking like a deep dive. So the general rule of thumb for me, cause I, I prefer driving by the way. Okay. Just a personal preference. If I could drive there, I love it. If, if time was, I want my own vehicle with me. Yeah. If time's unlimited, I'm going to choose, you know, I'll drive. Right. I like that. I like being able to pull over. I like the impromptu. Hey, what, What the hell is that? Let's pull over and
SPEAKER_02:take a
SPEAKER_01:look. That kind of deal. But whenever you look at time and what you're trying to accomplish and you start looking into the price, to me, the general rule of thumb is if you're traveling by yourself, it's probably better for you to go the route of vehicle. Oh, absolutely. If you're traveling with a group. Oh, I'm sorry. No, no, no. If you're traveling by yourself. It's flight. It's flight. Yeah. And if you're traveling with multiple people, that's whenever vehicle.
SPEAKER_02:And, and that was the thing, right? You're spending an extra, well, not an extra 15 because you spend on gas. I don't know. Like I think I calculated somewhere around$200. Yeah. I'd say four, something
SPEAKER_01:like that. Yeah. Something like that. Two, two, two round trips. Yeah. Each way.
SPEAKER_02:So you're saving a shitload of money though. You know what I'm saying? So I, the way I, the way I thought about it is like, well, I'm taking all that money and spending that when we're there. Yeah. Like we're going to go to a nice restaurant.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. But you also, you also ate up sometimes. So it's almost, it's almost like, and we've, we've talked about this in previous episodes. It's almost like choosing to either mow your lawn by yourself or paying somebody to do it. Like, is my time better spent in the enjoyment of the additional vacation time? Or is my, in driving, by the way, could be part of that vacation time. Well, maybe you, everybody enjoys
SPEAKER_02:it. The whole point is being together. Yeah. And I think, Well, for mine, I mean, my kids were asleep. My wife was asleep. I have to drive. So, I mean, and we've flown. And when we flew, oh, my God, it was so hectic, partly because my son was two. And it was just like, oh, my God. Either way, it was going to be hectic, right? But my wife was crying. You know, my kids were crying. It was just like, it was crazy. And then we didn't buy an extra ticket for my son because, you know, he was two yeah and i held him the whole freaking three-hour flight and you know it sucks because you go in there you almost preemptively apologize i'm sorry you know this is gonna get hairy somewhere within an hour into this this kid is gonna lose it and i mean yeah would it been less stressful driving but there's no way we would have drawn a drove with with the two because we tried doing that with our daughter going to just to dallas which is a four-hour drive and we pulled over so many times because she just was not having it so I get that but it's just man you know unless you start paying like adult prices right you can't you can't have a kid flight sir she's 23 don't
SPEAKER_01:even have that seat
SPEAKER_02:we can shove them both there both in one so DLH do you mostly drive fly do you got that that doctor money to where you can just charge or
SPEAKER_01:a flight. The only reason Hyman doesn't want to pay for the flight is because he's spending on them two grand plus TVs and stuff like that.
SPEAKER_02:That was in 2002, sir. I
SPEAKER_01:know whenever 2000 was more like 6,000 in today's dollars.
SPEAKER_02:I didn't have a lot of debt.
SPEAKER_00:Most of the time when we travel, we fly. Ooh, that doctor money. No, definitely not the doctor money. I ain't got no doctor money. You ain't got no legs, Lieutenant Dan. You
SPEAKER_01:got that in this professional money, though. I
SPEAKER_00:know. Which is not a lot. Fit and fabulous. I'm with y'all. I prefer to drive. My wife, though, doesn't like that at all. Really? So she prefers to fly. And every time we're going to talk about any trip anywhere, I'm always like, let's just drive. I'll drive. And then she says, I hate driving. I'm like, well, you're not driving.
SPEAKER_02:I'm driving. Correction,
SPEAKER_00:ma'am. And I always try all
SPEAKER_02:that. And I'm going
SPEAKER_00:to get that TV. All of that stuff. And then she you know, ultimately makes her point, whatever she, she wants to fly. So, but she's also the one who does all of the research, finds all of the stuff. Yeah. And San Antonio to
SPEAKER_01:Fort Lauderdale, by the way, like I know you can secure direct flights and usually they'll, you're spending about$200 a person.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. Two to 250. And then if you're crafty with like credit cards and points and things like that, and you get those things covered, she, you know, because she travels for other things too, for work, for, sorority for like all the things that she does so she she's the one who does all that stuff I'm very much the one who kind of goes with the flow right and I like if I'm going to travel somewhere it's very rare that I'm traveling for work at all at least for the time being so when I'm traveling somewhere I'm pretty much like go with the flow and she is more an itinerary type person
SPEAKER_02:yeah that's my wife she's more she's she sets everything I know when we went to to Orlando we flew and she set the whole itinerary for every day i think they were doing the fast pass then to where we'd pick the two rides that we wanted to do in the morning and two rides in in the afternoon so we just walk up there and then we do whatever between those but you didn't have to stand in line i tell you
SPEAKER_00:i'm difficult in vacation mode i don't
SPEAKER_02:know
SPEAKER_00:about y'all but when she's because the itinerary we're i mean being opposite right and and when she starts telling this day we have this this day we have this and i'm like hold on focus on one day at a time and just tell me what i'm doing that's all i want to know all i need to know is what am i responsible for
SPEAKER_01:yeah it it makes it really hard well for me when you have an itinerary so a couple years ago we went to peru when we went to peru i didn't know anything about i didn't know much about the country or anything like that just that i really wanted to go and i thought okay since i don't know any person that has been there before that I can tap into and ask questions, I guess I'll go with like a travel agency. So I tapped into this travel agency. They set us up, but every day had like, it wasn't even like an itinerary that we built. It was like, okay, you're going to go here for two days and there's this one excursion kind of thing that you're going to do, but then you need to wake up because we're flying to this other part of the world. And so what I ended up finding out or discovering during that trip, it's like, okay, now it's evening. It's about eight o'clock in the evening. Isaiah and I got to go to bed because the next morning we got to be up at two because the bus is going to pick us up at around two, two 30. And then they're going to take us to this other destination. And then it's just like, hop, hop, hop. Like you never just got to see something and say, you know what? This is really cool. I know I'm only supposed to be here for two hours, but I want to stick around and hang out. And instead, you're just worried about, oh, I'm going to have a hard time waking up if I don't go to bed now. And Isaiah and I struggled every freaking morning, or not every morning, but every time there was a shift in the destination that we were going to because it was all these logistics that the travel agency had put together that weren't, for Isaiah and I, practical. And so I kind of felt a little bit robbed of my time and stuff like that. And then you're waiting on other people at times. That bus that's picking up, it's not just you. They're picking up a couple other people along the way. So they're baking in on their side another 45 minutes to an hour for that, where if it was just me saying, okay, I'm going to schedule a taxi from here to here and blah, blah, blah. I'm going to schedule a flight from here to the other side of the country and spend more time doing that stuff
SPEAKER_00:now Jaime you said you like the drive
SPEAKER_01:yes
SPEAKER_00:is it just the driving itself or what what is it about the drive
SPEAKER_02:to me to me it's it's it's soothing it's calm like if especially if it's a long trip I mean I I just I'm used to it you know when we were kids my dad we lived in Dallas and we would visit Mexico right on the border the other side of Del Rio which is Acuna and it's an 8 hour drive and my dad was the old school we ain't stopping you know we're gonna get gas somewhere but we're going straight there we're leaving right now and we're going there and when you're kids you don't understand that right you're like man I'm getting a little hungry
SPEAKER_03:dog
SPEAKER_02:and my mom would be like y'all hungry okay she start making sandwiches in the front seat and then start tossing them back my uncles whenever we went you know Caravan, ooh. You know what I'm saying? Don't tell Trump. But we did Caravan New Mexico. Like, he would love stopping at, you know, like McDonald's and all this stuff. We're like, man, this is awesome. Yeah, this is a luxury. But I guess you get used to it. And then you're just kind of eight-hour drives where, like, hey, that's just the way it is. And so in driving to Dallas, it's not a big deal. I drove to Tucson, which is the same 12, 13 hours, just the other way. I love everything about it. Like, I'll stop at... to get gas and then you know like they say you become like that 13 year old kid where you just grab whatever you know like sunflower seeds and peanuts and a Dr. Pepper and you just buy shit like just to kind of keep you you know kind of in the drive like I do sunflower seeds when you know kind of keeps you up makes you do something and I love stopping in odd places you know like odd gas stations that sell shit I love sitting watching or looking at the stuff they sell like those shot glasses that I have that are nights I got them somewhere in Florida I was like those are cool I bought those I just buy really a bunch of dumb shit but it's just to me it's soothing it's the drive that's why you can't fly bro yeah I'd be flying them over and we've flown we've flown to Tucson or actually it was Phoenix we had to fly to Phoenix and then drive down and the same thing with Orlando flown to Chicago for work. And the experience is cool, too. Flying is fun. I'm not against it. To me, it's just like if we can drive, why am I going to spend an extra$800,$900? If it was just me and my wife, I would definitely just fly. Now that my daughter just graduated, I'm going to be like, so you're going to pitch in for this vacation?
SPEAKER_00:It's about That's about that time. That's about that time. For a few years, pitch in. And then after that, so this vacation on you or what?
SPEAKER_02:So it's to me that I like the experience. I like driving. I like having that unspoken race with the guy next to you, right? Where you pass him up. And then later you're like, God damn it. I thought I left that dude like 10 miles ago. and then he passes
SPEAKER_00:you up. Especially the unscheduled stop. I got to pee and like, damn it, I just left all these people behind. They're all going to pass me up.
SPEAKER_01:I love all that. The same guy that was in the fast lane that didn't move over earlier, you're now having to overcome that bastard
SPEAKER_00:again. But when you pass him, it's a sense of gratification, right? It's like, I got your ass.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, or the guy that's hauling ass. I'm more of a... I'll slide over. If I'd see a dude just... coming up on my rear view mirror. I'll slide over like, go ahead, bro. Like if you're going, I usually go roughly like 10%.
SPEAKER_00:Don't incriminate yourself. 10%. Catch
SPEAKER_02:me, mofo. About 10%, you know, faster than the speed limit. You know what I'm saying? But if somebody's like coming up on my rear view, I'll slide over like, bro, go find them cops. That's
SPEAKER_03:right.
SPEAKER_00:That's right. Yeah. You take them out the picture.
SPEAKER_02:But, But, you know, it's always in the end. I think everybody does it, you know, to where you're like that guy. I'm I'm passing that guy because that guy has been trying to get ahead of me and I let him over.
SPEAKER_01:They got a stupid ass bumper sticker. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Freaking tired of seeing, you know, you let them over. You get over so they can get past you and then they slow down. It's like, no, you were hauling ass behind me, you know, riding my ass for three miles. I let you over and now you want to go slow. Like, no, bro, go ahead.
UNKNOWN:That's right.
SPEAKER_02:So all that, you know, it's kind of funny. One of my friends said that they had driven up to, you know, somewhere up north, Chicago, somewhere like that. And he said they were having this battle with this other driver that was getting back to our other episode of, you know. Road rage. Road rage, yeah. And he said, man, he goes, this guy went crazy, right? And he started kind of telling him. And that he sped up and just got over. And that dude and his freaking... you know, craziness and trying to get around, he lost control and hit, then it just went down the median. Yeah. Luckily it was like separated. It was that grass between. Yeah. And you slid off into the grass and then, and my buddy was like, Oh shit. So, I mean, all that stuff is fun, you know, and plus the, you know, whenever you, you're with family, right. It's, it's a lot of, you know, you play all those games, the slug bug and, oh you know name this or you know what are three movies you want to watch or just basically nothing but podcast material
SPEAKER_01:I was going to say that one of the big memories I have is like driving to Montana all these family vacations that we went to as a kid it was usually like a 24 hour drive 22 24 hours to get there and I remember I didn't understand some of the road signs so there's the do not pass pass with care right so I remember with my brother here we are in the back so my dad had a Ford Ranger and he bought a camper for it so the camper top just goes over the back you're sitting in essentially a bed of a truck which is totally illegal now and they laid like a few blankets at the bottom so you could still feel the indentions it wasn't like a comfortable situation you're not really able to sit up fully you're cramped And you're just in there. And we would see those signs. And I remember it would be like, pass with care. And then I'd be, hey, brother. Hey. Give him a hug or something like that. And then as soon as it says, do not pass, then I'd start hitting him and stuff like that. Beating the crap out of him. And then it'd be, pass with care. Hey. And we just would alternate with that. And then we would get away with that for a bit until we got too loud. Yeah. Like, I'm pretty sure my dad I saw the chingasas going on in the background through the rear view mirror, but nothing would be said until it was like, it just got loud and you, until you had to make a pit stop.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. There was, there was, there was five of us. So we were always, man, my, and my dad didn't play at all.
SPEAKER_00:See, but those are the things that, those are the memories though, right? In a drive, you, I think that they, you get the opportunity for more memories. Yes. On a drive. That's how I see it.
SPEAKER_02:I know on the way to, to, to Mexico, My dad, and at the time I didn't really realize it, he would take us by the mall here because of the giant cowboy boots. And I love cowboy boots, right? Worn them all my life. And so they'd wake us up. They're like, man, check them out. We're like, oh shit, the cowboy boots. And then we go back to sleep, right? Well, he would go out of his way, right? Because you just take 35 and you just go through downtown and continue going. You have to take 410, loop 410 to go around to actually get to it. So it wasn't until I got here, I was like, oh, my dad actually went out of his way to kind of give us that little bit of, you know, you're halfway there, right? It's
SPEAKER_00:four hours. That's North Star Mall in San Antonio, in case anybody's wondering.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, and it's a little bit out. But
SPEAKER_01:like you were mentioning your kids earlier, and it's kind of a question to you, are your kids get excited about seeing some of the scenery? Because what I suspect So growing up... you would see the scenery, but it's cause you didn't have, there wasn't anything else to do in that car other than you're, you're playing like you're, you can't really, there's not much to do back then. Right. You're, you're identifying cars, doing that kind of stuff, but it can only entertain you for so long. Now they got entertainment on their hand. So like I, I know whenever I'm driving or whenever I've driven around with Isaiah, like he'll just be watching a video on his phone. I'm like, Oh, Look at that river. And he just looks up and acknowledges it. Look at this huge bridge. And then that's it. Hey, look at that. And there's not much that excites them, right? I'm wondering if your kids, are your kids kind of like in that sense too? Or is
SPEAKER_00:it like, oh, my God, that's an awesome gorge there. No, no, they're never like that. You have to point it out. But I do try to guide them, right? So when we get into the car, we start taking a road trip, and I set up like– There's no technology right now. You need to be aware of where we're going. You need to be as bored as I am. Exactly. All of that stuff. And then what winds up happening is when they're like, okay, but are we going to stop at Bucky's or whatever it is? And then I'm like, yes, we are. So all you got to do is make it to there. We'll get some snacks. And that's what they get excited about. So then they'll create conversation about whatever is around us, whether it's games or conversation, they do that until we reach the snack place. Once we get to Bucky's or wherever it is, because there's other places other than Bucky's, right? Is there? Yeah, there are. Loves. Loves that have like good snacks or whatever it is. So we get those things and then that buys me more time because as we're driving, they're having the snacks. Then after you're at the restroom again. And then after we're having the snacks. So then this always winds up happening. We have the snacks, we're talking, everybody's laughing or whatever it is after the snacks happen they fall asleep yeah and then there's a period of quiet where yeah either the kids are asleep and i get to talk to victoria or maybe victoria falls asleep but my son doesn't so i get to talk to him and then maybe they fall asleep but my daughter doesn't and i get to talk to her and then there's other times where they all fall asleep and i just get the road
SPEAKER_02:yeah
SPEAKER_00:right and then inevitably when they wake up they try to silently get on their video games and not alert to them being awake so put them away thing. And I'll let them get away with that for long enough. So if my son wakes up and everybody else is asleep, okay, play your games until everyone else is awake because we don't want to necessarily wake them up. And then I'll just keep on driving. He's all giving his sister some sleeping pills and stuff so she can stay asleep. But then as soon as everybody wakes up, we're right back to it. Turn all technology off and we're all in this together.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, that doesn't work with us anymore because we're older you know i was like whatever but here's something that that i kind of i don't know how i feel about it but i'm gonna tell you what happened right so my wife is like listen to whatever you want to listen to and sometimes i do when they all fall asleep i'll just put it on what i would listen to when it's just me in a car right but for the most part i try to listen to stuff that everybody's cool with usually what my daughter and my wife you know want to listen to and i'm cool with it but there's times when i'm listening to whatever's listening what Whatever I'm listening to. And then my son puts on his headphones. My daughter puts on her headphones. And then my wife, too. And I'm like, oh, okay.
SPEAKER_00:So I
SPEAKER_02:listen to y'all
SPEAKER_00:shit. You're the sacrificial lamb over
SPEAKER_02:here. I listen to y'all shit, like, you know, the past three hours. Y'all can't listen to, like, two, three songs of my shit. And I didn't say anything, but I was like, man, that's some bullshit.
SPEAKER_00:My son does that. He does that. And then I'm like, why can't you just tell me what you want to listen to? Yeah. He's like, no, I'm good.
SPEAKER_01:You know what? I wonder, though, because you said in between before we started recording this that Letty wanted to hear the Chivalry Chronicles podcast. She
SPEAKER_02:did.
SPEAKER_01:And you said no. I was like, no, I'm good. He said no. So his wife was probably like, I'm going to listen to it. And Jaime's over there listening to his bullshit. Well, here's
SPEAKER_02:why. Because my phone was attached to the truck. And they already have my download. You know what I'm saying? It doesn't do anything. But we did the best friend episode. You were disgusted by us. You didn't want her to hear that she's not here. No, no. We should have done that one. Here's the other thing, which I don't know and what these two clowns don't know, is that by the time the episode actually gets released, I've already listened to it like three times as I'm editing. I'm just rewinding, taking stuff out, listening to it. And so it's like I've heard it. What Jaime don't know is that's just payback.
SPEAKER_00:That sounds like a Jaime problem. We just finished dealing with his
SPEAKER_01:ass, so yeah, it's payback.
SPEAKER_00:It's hard dealing
SPEAKER_02:with you. It's hard work, man. Yeah,
SPEAKER_00:it's hard dealing with Jaime.
SPEAKER_02:Being this good. Here's the other thing that we do as a family, right? It happened more whenever younger, our kids, but to diffuse sort of an argument or something like that We would say they're ruining vacation. You know, Liana's ruining vacation right now. And so we would vote someone who ruined vacation this time. Vote you off
SPEAKER_00:the
SPEAKER_02:island. She's doing it again. You know, like Joaquin ruined our vacation. And it's something usually like, it's not like we're getting somewhere and everybody after a road trip, everybody's tired. Everybody just wants to get into the hotel or whatever and that's when the shit happens right that's when somebody just pops off a little bit and we're like ah and so just to kind of diffuse it like ah see you're ruining so no beach for you yeah so that's the other thing that we do is like we vote who ruined vacation everything was good up until this point right here so is there specific places that you go like my wife loves going to the beach so consequently we always go to the beach Joaquin and I would love to go to Colorado at one point and just kind of be in
SPEAKER_01:the snow. I recommend you at least go.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:But I don't even want to
SPEAKER_02:do the snowboarding and all that bullshit. I just want to be in the hot tub and looking at snow. That's all I want to
SPEAKER_01:do. I've experienced and I don't like cold weather in general.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, my
SPEAKER_01:wife doesn't. I've experienced it. You need to experience it and then make a determination afterwards because you may fall in love with it and a lot of people Yeah. Even whenever it comes to... And I think vacationing is a good platform to try things that put you a little bit out of your element because I think those are the ones that are going to stick best in your memory.
SPEAKER_00:I love the cold weather, but I think I might be the only one in my family.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:I think when we go, I don't know that we necessarily have like, we always try to take a trip somewhere, but I don't know that we necessarily have a particular agenda or purpose to it. It winds up more organically happening. I don't know, maybe we're going to take a trip somewhere, but it just so happens that both kids are talking about You know, U.S. history and the founding of our nation or something like that, and we're going to take a trip to Philadelphia. So, you know, something like that. And then there was another time where, like, when we went to Chicago, Victoria had something going on with her sorority that was a pretty big deal for her. And then we wound up— Not for you? Well, for her, because she's the one—her sorority was in Chicago. But that's your best friend. It should be a big deal for you, too. It was a big deal for all of us when we were included in the tour. trip okay so anyway we went over there we we spent the first couple days you know celebrating her and that accomplishment there and then we went after that sorority part was over we stayed in chicago and made it a family vacation so that was cool
SPEAKER_02:who ruined vacation that time
SPEAKER_00:who ruined i don't think anybody ruined vacation ruining vacation is when you like just just but you know what i think get in trouble basically That's going to give me a new way to look at this. That's going to be hilarious to look at from that perspective from now on. Which one of y'all made this
SPEAKER_02:the worst experience? I don't remember what Liana did, but we pull up to that resort, right? It was in Destin. We had gone to Destin that time. And I can't remember what Liana said, but my wife lost it, right? And we're like, well, that's one vote for Liana.
SPEAKER_00:I think, like, so then after Chicago, my graduation this past June is what took us over to Florida. We had been to Florida before, but my in-laws lived there, like, years past. So it made it a no-brainer to go down there.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Now, coming up, our next trip, which we've already planned or are planning, is for New York City. Yeah. And I think that organically came up because my son was born in New York City. Oh, okay. He talks about that all the time, right? As like that being his, he always phrases it in a funny way, like that's my homeland or the motherland. He always says something odd. Get his powers. That's what it is. So then he does that. And then because like we all love Hamilton, right? The Broadway musical. And my daughter and I have been listening to it even recently. because she just loves to listen to that. And when they talk about being in Manhattan, she's been there, but she was so young she doesn't remember it. And so now she's like, I really want to go, and I want to see what it's like now that it's been brought to her attention. So we haven't told them yet that we have planned this, so this is going to be kind of a surprise to both of them. Unless they listen to this podcast. Which they won't. They won't. Damn them. They suck. Maybe I would make them sit it out then. Yeah. If you would have listened, you would have. We need those two listeners. We need these two listeners. But anyway, that's where we'll be going next. And what are we doing while we get there? I don't know. My wife knows. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:No, my wife loves the beach, so we always go to the beach. Joaquin and I were like, hey, because my son is about to head off to college. My daughter just graduated from college, and she's kind of living about two hours away from us.
SPEAKER_00:Which, by the way, congratulations. Thank you.
SPEAKER_02:Thank you. I did a lot of hard work. It was a lot of rough nights. A lot of carrying on a plane. And a lot of tears, don't lie. A lot of tears. No, no tears. Only when she graduated, I was like, yes, she gets off the roster. Thank you, Jesus. But, you know, the other thing I wanted to do, and we were talking about vacations, and I was talking to my dad, he used to take us. It wasn't really a vacation. It was a, we'd go see family, and we'd go back to kind of where we're from right where we're all born and where my dad it's seeing family so we never took a vacation like say we're gonna go visit some place we've never been and just kind of be there no we'd always go back and see family and and that's kind of weird like i guess i didn't really take a vacation till i graduated from college and came here like came to san antonio where we actually went somewhere to visit that place
SPEAKER_01:yeah my dad my dad was was opposite so We always went on vacations, and we were always going to different spots. Always in the U.S., but in 1995, it was my dad, my brother, and I, we went to Puerto Rico. My dad had previously went to Puerto Rico whenever he was a senior in high school, or he had just graduated. Puerto Rico. And he went back, and we got our family over there. And so my dad reconnected with his family over there, but we went in my dad's mine he wanted to use it as like yes i want to he wanted to see his family and reconnect with them because he hadn't seen them in 20 years essentially or whatever and we we get over there and the family over there is like oh let's go see visit the uh so and so let's go visit the old blah blah blah and we're getting introduced to nothing but family and spending time at their house yeah and then my dad i remember one of the nights he was like next time we come to Puerto Rico we're not telling any of them we're coming and it wasn't that he was like against the family but he he wanted like let's go do horseback riding let's go to the beach let's go actually vacation yeah because what the one thing that I tell people is me what I consider a vacation is doing stuff I don't I don't really like doing I don't like like I can't just sit at the beach and relax I'm not a relax on vacation type of person. I can do it.
SPEAKER_02:You're doing it wrong. You're doing it wrong. David is ruining vacation.
SPEAKER_01:I can do it, but no, I like to, oh, let's go do this. You are doing stuff. You're swimming. Then you are an itinerary person. No, it's not being on an itinerary. That's a lazy itinerary person. It's doing stuff. It's doing stuff. No, vacations don't do nothing. You don't do nothing? No, some people will just like, they'll plant at the beach for six hours or whatever. That's vacation That's exactly what we did. Me, it's like, yeah, we'll go to the beach. Let's spend about two hours there, but then let's bounce and go explore
SPEAKER_00:this. I mean, unless it's six to eight hours on a beach without a drink in your hand, then I got to go find out why is there not a drink in
SPEAKER_02:my hand. It was nothing but day drinking. We'd get there at 10 a.m., leave at five, and I'd drink all day.
SPEAKER_00:Especially if you go to one of those places that's all-inclusive. That's what I'm talking about right there.
SPEAKER_02:Bro, I was floating on the water with a freaking beer, dog. I'm going
SPEAKER_01:to stand the whole
SPEAKER_00:time.
SPEAKER_01:time didn't
SPEAKER_00:even
SPEAKER_01:realize he didn't make it to the
SPEAKER_00:water. I want to be on the beach and have people bring me things. Bring me
SPEAKER_01:things. I can do that, but I also want to go... What is that over there in the distance? Let's go check it out. Boom. That's a
SPEAKER_02:beach.
SPEAKER_01:What's over there? This is a beach. That's exactly what's right here. I always want to be doing different things. One day in Peru, I remember we did... Coke? We started this... I didn't want to sign up for what the travel agency had, but Ruby and Coke's the best. That's what I hear anyway. That's why you don't get up off the beach, fool. Isn't that the name of a song by Immortal Techniques? It is. It's terrible. You're getting off subject. The travel agency had like visit some museum and walk around that that was what they had on the agenda and i said i i basically was like yeah don't don't come pick us up we're gonna set our own we're gonna do our own thing so i signed us up and we went zip lining and then right after the zip lining this other van picked us up and then we rode four wheelers yeah and i mean and and we're just i like doing those different experiences they're they're not like it's not work
SPEAKER_02:it's it's no i i get what you're saying and we're making fun of you but if i'm at a beach i'm gonna be at the beach yeah now we've gone to tucson and we did the hiking we visited there's there's other like old city it is basically the set where they do a bunch of westerns and and i was you know those are great because that's what you do it in tucson or whatever but if i'm at the beach if i'm in destin i'm gonna be on the beach
SPEAKER_01:yeah and We're going to do beach like Barbie in the movie. But I also, I want to... Do what?
SPEAKER_00:Just other stuff. There's other stuff in the area. I find validity in both. If you take a vacation somewhere... Of course, who comes
SPEAKER_02:to L.A. is like, I agree with both of
SPEAKER_00:you. But that's right. If you go someplace... Specifically a beach. To do things, right? So when you go to Disney, for instance, you're not just sitting. No, you're not sitting in a hotel. You're doing things. Yes. So if you go someplace to do things, but then you sit there... then that's contrary to why you're there. Yeah. But if you go to the beach and you go to do things, you're contrary to why you're there. You go beach. That's right.
SPEAKER_01:Well, I can, I can do beach things and I can, I can do the six hour, but whenever I'm thinking of vacation, it can't, for me, I'm not going to, I'm not going to put us there more than four hours. Like I'm going to think of where we can pivot from that beach. So, oh, now I can, I'm going to sign us up so we can get on this. So we can, Get on a boat now. Dolphin
SPEAKER_02:watching
SPEAKER_01:and shit. Fishing
SPEAKER_02:maybe.
SPEAKER_01:It's all
SPEAKER_00:that stuff. That's what it is. I think if you're in a beach day, the only thing you need to consider is the only thing you need to consider is self-care. Let me reapply some of the sunscreen. Who the hell is going to feed me? Bring me some food.
SPEAKER_02:Here's Here's the issue that I run into with vacations, right? Is I need, especially if we're really busy, I need about a day, you know, to kind of decompress, like not worry about work. Because when you leave, you're still kind of, I still get calls and stuff like that. And so, you know, when you go on vacation, you kind of not want to think about that stuff. And because our office isn't a huge office, I still have to answer some things, right? And so, I know my, I call them the kids, right? Our young employees still called me. And then one day it got pretty ridiculous to where they're calling me almost every day. And I said, okay, guys. So when I got back to the offices, I said, okay, guys, when I'm on vacation, I'm going to respect your time off. So I don't call you when you're on vacation. And I know that sometimes you have to when it's like super emergencies. I go, but I need you to respect my time off. So ask all the questions before And if it's really, really shit hit the fan. Okay. Yeah, it makes sense. But don't call me for every little damn thing. You know, one day it was just like, I just left. I stopped by the office. Should I go get more water for
SPEAKER_01:the community?
SPEAKER_02:This kid. And, and, you know, it's hard to blame them because they're young. Right. But I told him like, you need to email these three people, you know, here's all the plans and stuff like that. And this mofo called me and said, sir, do I send three emails or Or do I send one email? I said, you know what, man? I said, I'm going to leave you with that. Figure it out.
SPEAKER_00:Figure it out. He's like, uh. I was like, click. You'll be just fine. Bye.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, I do have to disconnect from work. And I get that from the relaxing standpoint. But relaxing to me on vacation is just doing stuff, like engaging my mind and me in things. that I don't get to do on a normal basis because I don't have the time for it or maybe I don't necessarily
SPEAKER_00:have the money for it to do it on a regular basis. I'm more go with the flow, right? As long as it's not like, don't treat it like we're back at home and everything has to be on a specific time. We got to go, go, go. We got to leave right now. And when you're like that, it's not vacation right now. We're just in a different locale, right? And that's what I can't do. I agree with that. Calm down. down and let's just meander our way from one place to the other and then everybody's fine we're all good
SPEAKER_02:absolutely my wife and I had that discussion a couple of years ago because we're on the beach right and she's reading a book and you know we're all like hey you need to be in the moment and so we were messing with her like get off your book you know but that's how she was relaxing and we get it right so we didn't mess with her so then we were all there at the beach and then we go back to the back to the hotel and And I'm like, just, I don't feel like doing shit. And so we go out to dinner and then we come back pretty early. And I'm just kind of, I was like, look, I'm just going to veg out and watch this crap right here. It's already late. She's like, you know what? You know, she got kind of upset with me. She's like, we need to go do something. I was like, no, we don't, we don't have to do anything. And then, so the next day, you know, after it all, she's like, you know what? I apologize for yesterday. I understand that this is your vacation also, because she has a list of things that she wants to do in And I'm like, I don't want to do none of that shit.
SPEAKER_01:You're doing it. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:So we had that conversation where it was like, this is my vacation too. And this is what I want to do. We did what you wanted to do all day. This is what I want to do right now. Yeah. And so you got to have that conversation,
SPEAKER_00:which I think is important. Right. Because, because every time we would take, when we go to the, even the beach, you're at the beach, we take some drinks, you take some snacks, right. You do that sort of stuff. We take a book, which was always wishful thinking. Yeah. because then you're so busy watching not my kids my daughter reads like a mother but when we were this i think one of the last times we were at the beach and victoria took it i was like you take your book and just so that we can one of us can actually see this through take your book you focus on that i got the kids yeah and then i watch the kids and then she actually gets to do what we intended to do absolutely and then the following day she was like let me return that favor i got the kids let you know you do what you want to do so i drank bourbon and had a cigar. I was like, just smoking a cigar all day. And it's great to split it up like that and not have to focus on all the things at all times. Absolutely.
SPEAKER_02:Wait till they're older, dog. I didn't worry about them. I was like, Joaquin, go get us some more beer.
SPEAKER_01:Vacation with Rusty
SPEAKER_00:and Audrey. They're older, getting all
SPEAKER_01:this
SPEAKER_00:stuff. When they get old enough and you can send them back, just go When
SPEAKER_02:Joaquin got old enough where it's like, hey, I don't know, where are you going? Help me load the freaking vehicle. Come on now. And then when we get there, it's like, no, no, no. Start grabbing some of this shit too, bro. And so when he started doing that, I was like,
SPEAKER_00:man, this is the life right here. This last trip when we were in Florida, the condo that we stayed in was attached to the beach, which was great because then at that point, like, you know, my son, it's like, go, go back up to the room, go get this and come back down.
SPEAKER_01:Absolutely. That was awesome. Yeah, I know Isaiah for the last at least three years when we've gone on vacation, he'll go up to like the room and just chill. And I stay at the bar at the hotel or wherever we're staying at and just kind of chill out. And it works out really well. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:No, absolutely.
SPEAKER_01:But I think it's about that time to come up with a board approval.
SPEAKER_02:What are we going to board approve, though? Get your ass on vacation. Choose your pace. If you go to the beach, beach. And vacation. And vacation hard. No, vacation easy. All right. So board approved. Take vacations, man. Honestly, that's what we tell our employees. Take some time off. And don't do anything or do whatever. If you want to be like David and... Do what makes you happy. Do what makes you happy. Like role models. Board approved. There you go. And we'll see you next time.
