Episode 015 - "Knight Codes Re-Visited"

• Knight Code is a set of "unwritten rules" that outline aspects of Brotherhood interaction.
• David, Dr. DLH, & Jaime re-visit their favorite Knight Codes.
• Brotherhood & Loyalty
  • Knight Code No. 20 - Brothers shall be aware that all bonds are built on trust.  Henceforth, it can take years to build and seconds to lose.  Brothers know that to be trusted, you must first prove to be trustworthy.
  • #BoardApproved
• Social Conduct
  • Knight Code No. 24 - A Brother is not required to remember another Brother's birthday.  That being said, a phone call/text, on occasion, for a Brother's birthday would not be worst thing.  A requisite offer to buy a beer is in order.
  • #BoardApproved
  • Knight Code No. 28 - A Brother shall never knowingly manufacture obstructions that would impede another Brother from gaining favor with a potential mate.
  • #BoardApproved
• Accountability and Responsibility
  • Knight Code No. 30 - A Brother may ask his Brother(s) to help him relocating, but only after first disclosing an honest estimate on both commitment and possibly the number of large pieces of furniture.  If the Brother has vastly underestimated either, his Brothers, at the moment of realization, retain the right to immediately leave his possessions where they are located.
  • #BoardApproved
  • Knight Code No. 50 - A Brother shall designate the tag side of a bath towel as the "clean" side.  If no tag is present, the "seam" side shall be designated the "clean" side.  If a Brother cannot determine "seam" side, then the lighter colored side of a bath towel is the "clean" side.
  • #BoardApproved
• Issue a Verdict

Transcript

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if by some chance some stroke of luck or some act of god you have stumbled upon this broadcast you are listening to the chivalry chronicles with your host dr dlh

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i'm a damn doctor

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David. We're going to bring the tea. I refuse to not drink during the podcast. Yeah. And me, Jaime. They need to make podcast equipment a lot more expensive to get some of these clowns off the air. Gather around as we discuss a modern manly approach to chivalry. So I hope you're ready because I know we are. So let's get into it. nice that that actually worked it's pretty good so we're in 2025 guys and oh is that good oh man you're trying to do a serious you know intro and this guy's so let's start again no so it's 2025 and i felt and i And I kind of coerced these guys into let's do Nightcodes again because DLH never partook in it because guess what? He wasn't part of the first episode. No show role. No show role. So we said, hey, you know, we had stayed in an episode. We need to get DLH on here and discuss Nightcodes. Nightcodes by far has been our most downloaded episode ever. for whatever reason. I think it's all over the world. It's frigging Sweden and Germany and- And Mexico. And Mexico. Canada. Part of it is because I think Nightcode sounds cool. Yeah. You know, and I think people are- People are trying to align themselves to what should and shouldn't be done. Yes, with chivalry. Yeah, the chivalrous endeavors. I know. And along the same lines, you know, we wanted to thank- The people from Dearborn, Michigan. Do you know anybody in Dearborn, Michigan? Detroit, Michigan? Virginia Beach? I mean, I don't know people in Virginia Beach, but we thank you for listening. Georgetown? I guess, oh, that's where my daughter is. That's where my daughter is. But like Lillington, North Carolina. Disclose where our listeners live. Yeah. San Benito, Texas. Oh, down in the 956. Phoenix, Arizona. Levine, Arizona. Indianapolis, Indiana. So we want to welcome you back. You know, it's a new year. We started this in August. We're six months in, I believe. So now we're starting a new year. We wanted to go back, you know, to start with Nightcodes. So DLH, now that you've kind of gone through the Nightcodes and committed them to memory. Yeah, yeah, let's say that. Because you should, you know, if you want to be a productive member of this podcast. So give us a rundown of what you think overall about Nightcodes. I think David and I kind of gave an explanation of why we did it and kind of what prompted it. I think it's important to recap just in case somebody didn't. I want to hear what the rationale is for some of the things that I have read. Okay. So what we stated previously is with night codes, it's a lot of unspoken, unwritten rules. And we took the liberty of writing them down. I had some time. I thought they were fun to do. And I took from plenty sources, right? I think we mentioned How I Met Your Mother has a bro code. And so we kind of borrowed from that. We borrowed from just all in all just different, like there's certain, like motorcycle clubs have certain things that they do. Bro code is something. And then just our own experiences. A lot of this stuff, half of this stuff is stuff that we encountered, right? Um, not code 49 with, with, uh, buying around the beers. That's something that we kind of encountered that, uh, my brothers and I would do, or when you go with coworkers or it's something that you kind of do, but you don't know where you got it from. It's just kind of tradition that you buy around. Um, and then some people don't get that. Yeah. Uh, and so, um, I think what, something we didn't touch upon is something that I kind of got mixed into and it was totally new for me. I invited a friend out to go have a drink and, uh, I said, you know what, I'll get the first round. And I ordered a beer, just normal beer. And I said, what do you want? And he says, you know, give me a super expensive ass drink, which was like, you know, like 15 bones. I was like, cool. Because I offered, you know, if you order a$20 drink and I offered, I'm obliged to pay for it because I offered. No problem. I got it. I'm paying for it. When he paid for it, he ordered himself a beer and ordered me a beer, right? You know what I'm saying? And so I'm paying$100, he's paying$30. And I was like, wait a minute, this ain't adding up. But I can't say anything, right? That's just a lesson learned. I was like, well, that's the last time I invite this fool out. Because he's deliberately skirting the rules, but not overtly. Or maybe overtly. It's almost like a... I don't know if it's his fault that you drink cheap beer. Well, but should I drink a$15 beer? Yeah, on his round, just to even it out a little bit. But you don't know, you probably didn't know that he was going to order a cheap beer. No, no, but he was specifically ordering an expensive drink when I paid, and he was ordering a cheap beer when he paid. But did he forecast that? Did he tell you he was going to do that? Yeah, because some people, like last night, I had went out and had some drinks with my brother and his friends. Yeah. And I know I did a, there was a, uh, an Irish whiskey that I wanted to try and they had like a combination. It was like the, the Irish whiskey, a shot of that and a beer. And I said, well, I don't want to take a shot of it, but put it in a whiskey glass and I'm going to drink that. And then I'll, I'll drink my beer. Right. I know I will convert from a nice drink and then just get into beers. Cause beers is like the end all be all for me. Uh, so, uh, could that have been happening? Like, but even if it isn't, it still goes back to this night code. Yeah. Yeah. And it's, so our night code doesn't cover it. It's, it's a loophole. If, if I'm buying around, yeah. If you want to exploit it, don't do that. Don't do that. Yeah. Be upfront with, with what you're like, a similar story. I went with another friend of mine and he's like, look, I'm going to order an expensive one. I was like, I got it. Don't worry about it. You paid the last round. I got this one. And he did. And I was fine with it because he told me, hey, this is going to be like$20. No problem. Done. If he would have told me that, I'd be like, hey, bro, I'm cool with doing it once. You do it three or four times. Yeah, I'm out. I think it confuses or confounds, I guess, maybe the night code a little bit. But I know that if I were going to do that, right, because... because I'm often a whiskey drinker where other people are drinking beers. Not that I can't drink beer. I can just do that. I think for somebody who would be in that position of ordering maybe potentially one of those more expensive drinks, it's just worth the consideration. If I know that I'm going to do that and you're buying that round when I'm ready for that drink, then I know after that, yo, I got your next two rounds. Exactly. You even it out, which is what we talked about. Or I just have one more beer. I don't do that on your round. I wait until it's my round to do that. Absolutely. If I offer to pay. Don't nickel and dime, but be able, be cognizant that, hey, this is a little lopsided here. Let me try to even out the plain field. Unless said brother is rich and doesn't feel it. True that. And I have gone out with brothers that are like, they have so much money um that they don't know what you order no they they paid the whole night yeah and i'm sitting there trying to ration my stuff because look man i ain't got money for this and they were like oh i got it they closed down the bar like the bar's supposed to close at one we were there till 4 a.m because he's like keep it open but even they kept it open and i'm like oh man when they do that sort of stuff i'm like i'm not gonna go all out because i'm not trying to take advantage right i just want to i just i That's your conscious, right? Yeah. Let me be aware and I'm just going to be frugal or, I don't know, just not abuse it. Not abuse the relationship. Yeah. Yeah. If you hate the guy, great. But this is not a thing where you hate the guy, right? This is brotherhood. Yeah. You know, you got to be courteous and all that. And if we're talking night codes, even if you hate the guy, don't lower your standards. Yeah. for whatever other reason. Don't be petty. Yeah, you should always stick to whatever your standards are. Well, we'll know in the end. I mean, we're diving into a particular night code per se, but... Yeah, but that's what we discussed last time. Yeah, so, but let's now kick into yours because I'm curious to hear what yours are. Oh, man, they're groundbreaking. Great. But you got to read it and then we'll discuss it. I got to read it? Yes. Unless you want me to read it. DLHs. Yeah, I want you to read it because you're the one who created it and I want to hear it from the author's Mouth. I want you to read it the way it was intended to be heard. Latino. Absolutely. So what was your first one? So the listeners know. Night code number 20, I believe. Number 20. Okay. So number 20 says, where's number 20? Right there. Brothers shall be aware that all bonds are built on trust. Henceforth, it can take years to build and seconds to lose. Brothers know that to be trusted, You must first prove to be trustworthy. There you go. Board approved. What's going on? It just says hashtag board approved on there. No, it was board approved. The board of one. I was on the board of one. Okay, now that makes more sense. It was on a board of one. Nobody ratified these. I ratified them. I was chairman at the time, so you have carte blanche, right? Well, it says board approved, though, not chairman approved. I was the board. Okay, I just want all the listeners out here to know that, that these nightcoats came out. from one person, essentially. Essentially, he acted as a historian because these are based on reality. Yeah, but we're just experiences that we're just expected to take. You know how the Bible was written and you don't really question it? That's how these are. No, I question it. I question it all the time. You shouldn't. You shouldn't. No, I question it all the time. This was inspired by brotherhood. Yeah, I question all things. Don't question Matthew like that. All the things. Look, I... Now, it just so happens to be that I do, I guess, subscribe to this one a little more than the others that we're going to talk about in a little while, right? But... that bonds are built on trust. That's, uh, I, I do believe that that is universally true, right? Correct. The less you can trust people, the more, uh, complicated that relationship gets. Right. Uh, in whatever form that is, whether it's a coworker, family member, friend, fraternity brother. Um, but I think that if, if we're talking now in the context of night codes and fraternity brothers, and that we're supposed to be conducting ourselves in this way, uh, Yeah, trust is huge. Essential. Yes. What else am I supposed to say about that? No, I mean, just your thoughts on it. If that's all, I mean, since we didn't, I don't think we did this one. No, we didn't. But I think, so is there an experience or something that you had that falls along these lines? Well, I mean, I think in general, right? Because yes, there are plenty of examples throughout. I think through most of our histories where we can go back to points in time where we were let down. Absolutely. Yeah. But do you believe that it takes years to build and seconds to lose? I do, because even if you start within, let's say that you come through, whether it's you being either naive or just willing to trust automatically in a relationship, that is unfounded trust that you would be giving someone because you're giving them the benefit of the doubt. You would have to put them in a position to have to come through over and over again for you to realize that that person, in whatever capacity that is, is going to come through over and over and over again. Absolutely. Most of the time, that takes years to build because you don't rely on that person that often. Yeah, not on a daily basis. Because if you're relying on somebody like that on a daily basis, there's some things you need to work on. Right. So, I mean... we've all had the situation. I know I've had it and I've had it in the brotherhood where you do build a relationship. Sometimes I think some brothers don't understand some people, some friends don't understand that there's levels to relationships, right? You have a, what, one of our closest brothers, one of my closest brothers kind of explained it this way. And I was like, that's a great explanation because there's, there's circles, right? There's, there's a circle within a circle. Like there's an inner circle of, the people that you hang out with, uh, with me, it would be like your go-to. Yeah. Like with me, it would be, you know, like you two guys, David, we do a lot of stuff together, right? So you're in the inner circle and then you have brothers outside of that circle, but still within the brotherhood. And some brothers don't understand that this is who I call. If I have trouble, you know, if I have this, these are the people, these are the four people that I call. I go, then if they can't, then I start going outside the circle. But these are the four that I know if I need something or I need help, these are the ones I can count on. Other people will surprise you that you'll call them and like, absolutely, done. And you're like, okay, now I move you into the circle, right? And then maybe you felt like this guy was in the inner circle and doesn't provide it. He moves out of the circle. But it's a very fluid thing. And then so the situation that I got into is like, We have a very cordial relationship. We're in the brotherhood. You have a job, I have a job. When we both do our jobs, we do a great job together. But we're not close, you know? And that's okay. You're not going to be close with everybody. And I think those are quicker to sever rather than the ones that are really, really close. I know one, somebody, one of our listeners is like, hey, I want to know the fight that you and David had. And I was like, which one? Because there's plenty of them. There's like three or four of them. But I know that, I know this relationship is strong because we have had knock down, drag down fights and arguments to where I was like, F that dude. You know what I'm saying? But I think those are the best ones. Yeah. But I also think that like, fights and things that happen between friends and people who respect each other, those are not... The fact that a fight happened doesn't mean that you don't respect the person that's there. No, absolutely. I think you respect them more. Yes, because now you know that you can have that sort of argument and that you're eventually going to come back together in whatever capacity. Yeah. I think that over time, when these people are put in position to have to come through for something, and they do. And then they do it again, and then they do it again. That consistency is what helps you develop that trust. Now, when you learn to rely on that person in a time of need, and then that person... I don't think that it's necessarily a point to that... It's like, I really want to come through for you this time, but I'm tied up in something else that's big. I don't know that that would count as the time that they're letting you down, but I mean a time where somebody betrays you. Yeah. Right. Like where somebody where you're like, wow, I never would have expected that from you. Right. And immediately. Not you. All the trust that you have gained over the years, you have lost. Them, not you. And now you've lost that. And that's something that if they want to get back in that, it's going to take you now a couple of more years to build that trust back. Absolutely. At 2DLH. Okay. At 2. Well, there you have it. There's my feelings on. Great. Do you have anything to add, David, before we move on to the next one? Well, one of the things that I read, and I don't remember the source. You don't read? I don't remember the source. It was me. I told you. It was a text from me. But one of the things that I had read that kind of struck me is– It was talking about how to deepen a relationship with someone. And yes, you can help them, and that deepens the relationship. So if you're there helping them all the time, it deepens the relationship. But the biggest needle mover, which was surprising to me, is when you ask them for help. Yes, I read that, and that was the craziest thing. I was like, what? That doesn't make any sense. Yeah, that's what I thought, too. It doesn't make any sense. So in order for me to... Come closer to you. For me to draw myself closer to you, at some point, what moved the needle the most, according to this article, was you asked me for help, and now I'm helping you. Yeah. You're asking me. You would almost think, from a surface level, you would think, oh, this person's just taken from me. Yes. And so they're not going to... I'm not going to deepen my relationship because they're just a give me, give me, give me. And it's not. It's whenever you ask for it. Yeah. Yeah. So I would have thought that in order to deepen a relationship, I'm there for you. But it's the other way around. I'm asking you to do stuff for me. Yes. Maybe I'm missing something. You're confused as to why. Let me guess, you have an idea. Concepts. I'm confused as to why this is confusing to both of you. Interdependence. Yeah, so for me, let's say I'm trying to build a relationship. I'm trying to build respect and trust from you. In my mind, you call me up and you say, hey, David, I need you to... My car won't start. Can you come give me a jumpstart? And I go for you. So I would expect those things are what's adding the points. What, that you're doing something for me? Yeah. Is you then saying, adding more value to our relationship. Right. Me doing those things for you. What this article was saying, though, is really it's me calling you instead and saying my car's broke down. Yes, from your point of view. How is this confusing? If it's your point of view. I think you're missing it. No, because if you are in a position where you are self-reliant and you're always doing things for yourself and you rarely need help. But in this point, you need help. And it's so difficult for you to ask for help. Right. You're going to ask for help. But why is it difficult? Why is it difficult to ask for help? Because you don't want help. No. Because a lot of people won't help you. Yeah. No, no, no, no. I think so. Sure. That's been my relationship. That's my default. I think that might be it. But I do think that that is more of a pessimistic view of the world. But most people want to be self-reliant. You don't want to need help. No one does. I don't know. You don't want to need help. Now, do we need help? Yes, we do. And when you need help and you get yourself to a point where I have to ask someone for help, you're going to look for the person that you believe is most responsible and is likely to come through. Now, if I ask you for help and you don't come through, that taints my view of the world. Right. But if you do come through now, I guess, but, but see, I think you're actually thinking the same. I think you're on the same side that we are. So what, what, what I'm saying is let's say I want to gain you as, as I want to do the relationship with you. Yeah. Okay. Ask me for something. I got to ask you for something. And then I got to come through and then, and then you're going to gain more respect for me from that. No. Well, actually I might, but you would be, you would, if we're, if we're gauging this percentage, you would gain more respect from me for coming through. No. See, and that's what, that's what this article was saying is it's flipped. Yeah. The thing that really, that really doing. Yeah. You providing the service endears you to him instead of the other way around. Yeah. I think that you coming through for me does more for you in your mind, in your mind. If, if you came and gave me a jumpstart for my car, What this article is saying is in your mind, you're closer to me. Yeah. So this is why I mentioned interdependence. I know what it means. Do you? Yes. Because interdependence is how you gain respect for one another in a mutual time of need, right? So when you do this and you know that you can rely on each other, you're both going to gain something from that experience. But this article was saying that the person that's asking for it gains more than the person that's provided. Like it's, it's sort of like a, it's in, it's inverse. It's inverse. Yeah. Like I would think, I would think that it's, um, I would think it'd be the opposite, right? Me providing the service that endears me. What it was saying is that me providing ties me to you more than you asking for it. That's what it said. Well, I guess I see both sides. It wasn't arguing that. It wasn't arguing. One or the other. It's saying it's more this way. It's saying the thing that moves the needle the most out of the two gestures is the person who you're trying to influence helps you. And the person who is helping gets the most out of that? Yes. Okay. Well, and the way that I read it, I read it in a manipulative manner, right? Like, if that's the case, then I'm going to ask people to do all kinds of shit, and I'm going to be endeared to them, and then that's freaking badass. But your mind doesn't work that way, right? Yeah, and I don't think it should. But according to this article, if I ask a lot of people to do stuff for me, and they do it, they're gonna be endeared to me. Yeah, and I get, because part of what it was saying or what it was getting at is people like to be in the position of helping and influencing. Yes, and you're counting on me to get something done so I get something out of that. Yeah, but once again, DLH, this is inverse though. So you providing that service to me, now you draw, you're drawing closer to me whenever I was trying to draw closer to you. But I guess the way I saw it is like, I don't have to be close to you. You're close to me by me asking you to do stuff. Yeah. Well, I mean, I guess maybe if you put like, I don't know, some form of metric to that, I might be surprised by that. But ultimately, because we all want to be needed, especially as men, we need to feel needed. I get that because it has been more apparent when my daughter went off to college. She didn't need me as much. But when she needed me, I'm like, I'm there. I'm there. Yeah, when she's like, dad, I hit a deer. I'm over here two hours away from home. I'm on my way. And then that sort of thought in the back of your mind, oh, you do still love me, right? Yes, I'm still needed. We want to be needed. Yeah. Yes. But that, to me, it was flipped. And I saw it in a manner where you can take advantage of it and it would be jacked up. But I think very similar to your other night code, what was it, 49, when somebody's taking advantage of something, right? eventually you'll catch on. Absolutely. Just to kind of go back to the topic now, because we did discuss that a little bit more in depth, and I think that was almost its own subject, right? So let's go back to DLH. Now moving on to the second. Let's go. Move it along. What is the second one? Read it. 28. Okay. It wasn't 24? Yeah, it was 24. My bad. So 24. Okay. Yeah. Yes. I think this also going into the other nightclub we just talked about, oddly enough, I think in the moment or the first brother to wish me any happy birthday when it came up was Dave. Damn. Dave never does that. And I was surprised. Did you cry? I did. I shed a tear, but I won't tell him that because he's an asshole.

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Just say my name in vain. Go ahead. Yeah. I don't know if there's much to say about that. There is a lot to say about this. And here's why it was... This is why it was written. I have this... I have a rule, right? I have this rule. So I'm about rules. I don't know if you like rules to be a true fan. Nyko's is just a bunch of rules. I like rules. So... I didn't dislike when some brothers would come and say, hey, it's my birthday. I was like, look, bro, I have a wife, and I have two kids, and I have my parents, and that's who should be pissed off I didn't remember their birthday. Like, that's it. Beyond that, if I remember great, if I don't, who cares? Like, I am not crying to David, JV, I'll come eat, it's my birthday, dog, I'll come eat. I don't do that. Like, let's kind of, you know. Leave that shit for people that are absolutely like, am I ever going to forget my wife's birthday? Hell no. Because that would be the end. Like she'd probably divorce me if I didn't like remember her birthday. Well, how do you feel about your own though? My own birthday? I don't care. Like if you remember it, great. Well, see, so now I wonder because I feel the same. I'm not going to forget my kids' birthdays. No. And I'm going to post something and I'm going to go on social media. I'm not going to forget my wife's birthday. No. But if everyone forgot mine because I'm not good at being celebrated, I don't really care. I fall in the same category. In fact, I will say outside of Data Brothers. Nobody knows your birthday. Yeah, outside of Data Brothers. Nobody knows it. Nobody's ever wished me happy birthday outside of Theta Brothers. Nobody knows when his birthday is. He's never said when his birthday is. That's because he's 342 years old. He's a freaking vampire. Old I am. That's why you wear sunglasses indoors. Timeless. I kind of got fed up with some needy brothers. And maybe they're joking. I don't know. But to me, after a while, it's like, bro, come on. You know, like, so along the same lines, which probably should be another night code, if you call me and I don't answer, don't freaking be a little B about it, right? Like, I'm busy. You know what I'm saying? What is B? Biatch. Don't be, don't just, you know, I have had brothers that call me, right? And I don't answer because I'm usually doing work hours. Like, bro, I'm at work. I'm at work, yeah. Yeah. And it's like, I guess brothers don't answer their phone anymore. I was like, come on, man. I'm busy, mind you. Hold on here. So true story, but does this count? So you pull up literally next to a brother on the street, right? So you're at a stoplight. Okay. You see, oh, there's Hyman. Uh-huh. You dial up his phone number. You see him pick up his phone, look at it, and then set it back down. Does that count? Yes, that does count. Hey, dog. Hey, I wasn't in my right mind to talk to you at that moment. I was going through some shit. My dog just died. Or I wasn't looking at your phone call. You know, you really shouldn't be on the phone while driving. I had a co-worker that was also texting me at the same time. Someone's in the car with me and having a really good conversation. It's really difficult to give somebody the benefit of the doubt. But I'm just saying. That was based on a true story, by the way, back in the day. Wow. The brother, I'm pretty sure you're going to listen. I'm going to tell you to make sure you listen to this episode because you're going to know exactly what I'm talking about. In that brother's defense, nobody wants to talk to you. I wasn't involved. I wasn't involved. But this must have been after 98 or 99 because that's when people had cell phones. Yes. And there wasn't text messaging or anything like that. Now he's saying it wasn't him because people don't want to talk to Dave. That would have justified that. Yeah. But you it's along the same lines though like look people got shit to do and i was another another acquaintance right uh called me and i was in a meeting and i didn't call him back and then there was days right and um and so i text him later on i was like yeah you know uh I told him about the podcast. He's like, oh, so this is why you don't return my calls? It's like, no. I was like, it was one time, man. I didn't answer your call once. Come on. Give a little bit of grace and leeway. I answer your call all the time. If I'm available, I usually answer my phone because what sucks is that clients and contractors and other engineers have my personal cell. And I use it as my phone, so I answer just about every call, unless it's a scam, right? Unless it's a scam, likely. Because I don't know. It could be a client. And so I answer all the calls, and if I don't answer yours once, just let me chill about it. Let's not overreact. Well, I mean, I can say honestly, I don't remember ever being... upset about somebody not wishing me happy birthday, whether it's text or call or whatever. I've never been mad about that at all. What about your wife? Well, she's never forgotten. As a matter of fact, she is probably more frustrated with me because she always has to ask, what do you want to do already? I don't know. It's my birthday. I want you to write it down. It's around spring break. And a lot of the times... January? Spring break is January? I'll be busy then. And we're usually traveling, right? Because that's when the kids were off of school and that's when my wife was off of school. So we're usually on the road. On the road again yeah you know so whenever i get like well you didn't do this i was like hey we were on the road for my birthday i didn't even get a birthday cake so let's let's kind of temper the you know what i'm saying if we want to be equal and shit and i didn't i didn't mind i don't it's not that i don't care you know it's just like we didn't really celebrate birthdays growing up you know yeah same same here that my my extent of a of a birthday is we go out to eat yeah and that's it when's your birthday again It's somewhere in there. It's April. It's somewhere in there. No, definitely not April. It's somewhere in there. Yeah, nobody knows. Anyways, it's time we move on to the next night cold. Hold on. Where are you at? Before we move on, though, if anybody does want to wish me a happy birthday, you don't need to know the date. It's always pretty much linked to opening weekend in the NFL. Oh, really? Yeah. So Labor Day. It's the week after Labor Day. September 13th. So you're close. Yeah, nobody cares. But that's all that matters. We didn't ask for that. It's usually around opening weekend of the year. So you just took two minutes of the time. We're trying to meet a time frame right now. That was 20 seconds. No, I'm looking at the clock right now. Okay, so we're... You are a clock. What I'm saying right now is that... Without the L. Let's move along. Move along. Okay, so Nyko, I think 28 was your next one. 28 was next. Okay, it says... Our brothers shall never knowingly manufacture obstructions that would impede another brother from gaining favor with a potential mate. Yeah. Yeah. My favorite thing about this is the wording. You know, like whether it holds true as a night coach. It's true. It's sort of irrelevant because I love the artistry of the verbiage. Thank you. Thank you. You're the only one. You know, this is a genius use of wording is what I'll say to this. Part of the fun about writing them is coming up with wording. And it took some time. And this one, I used to, I had this EIT that they put on my team. And he was young, right? He was right out of college. So people, what is EIT? Oh, my bad. EIT? Phone home? Engineering training. I'm a civil engineer, and so... Before you become a professional engineer, you're an EIT. You graduate from, get your bachelor's in whatever engineering, civil in my case. Then you take an exam and you get an EIT license. And then you take the exam, the PE exam four years later, minimum four years later, or yeah. And then you become a PE, which is a professional engineer. So young engineers are usually EITs. So they put this EIT in and this guy was... He didn't date a lot, you know? And so we're talking and, and, and this was one of the things I told him, I was like, let them figure out what's wrong with you. You know, the, the opposite sex don't, don't create them for it. Don't tell them what's wrong with you. Don't highlight it. Yeah. Don't highlight it. Just kind of, you know, just brush, you know, do your attributes, your best attributes, let them figure out what's wrong with you. And this is part of it, you know, and it's like, don't manufacture obstructions for yourself. Yeah. And that's, that can be in interviews, you know, like give your best, you know, your best characteristics, let them figure out like, Hey, Jaime overthink stuff, you know, like, or, you know, he's, he's, uh, he procrastinates, you know, but I, you know, I would, I would say that I get it done, but I do it on my time. Right. So it's, it, that's, that's, that was the, um, kind of the intent of that. It's just, Don't do it yourself. Let them figure it out. Just give your best. Well, that's for yourself. But now this one says, don't knowingly manufacture obstructions that would impede another brother from gaining favor. Yeah, so that's with dating, right? It's like when you're the wingman, you don't want to, for lack of a better term, C-block that brother. No, that's just like you talked about clock without the L for Dave, right? So you do that, but you're not clocked. Yeah, so if you're the wingman, you're supposed to hype that brother up, right? You're supposed to hype him up, not say, man, you know, David over there, he ain't even got no job. He seems exciting right now, but tomorrow he's going to be a loser. And you know what? We joke about it, but that does happen. Everyone out there has a friend that is consistently... taking you down while you're trying to like... Yeah, and even beyond the dating realm. Oh, yeah. There's people out there. You may even have coworkers or something that are basically seed blocking you. But job blocking or... Yeah, job blocking. They're basically impeding... Manufacturing obstructions. Yeah, just so you don't get there because you may be at their level, They don't want you to supersede that. They don't want you to go above that. They don't want you to rise above that. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Dragging you down. So even though I know it relates specifically to dating, I think it applies across the board. Yeah. Correct. Well, maybe this night code should be amended to be across the board and not just dating. Well, it's not specifically for dating. This is here, right? Oh, yeah. Doesn't it say potential mate? Yeah, my bad. You're right. Maybe we just say your mate could be your manager. That should be its own nightclub. Yeah, that's a trip to potential job or potential opportunity. Maybe it should just be potential opportunity. Potential opportunity. Potential opportunity. Yeah, that's a potential change. Be on the lookout for the new nightclub revisions. Yes. Now that should be hashtag under board revision. It's still board approved. It could be board revised. Or we may have to create just a whole other one that specifically speaks to it. Okay. Well, now we're done with 28. Let's move on. So we've done three, right? Yeah, we've done three. Let's get to the fourth one. Two more to go. Okay. So night cold number 30, I think, is the next one that you picked up. And it says, a brother may ask... His brother slash brothers for help relocating, but only after first disclosing an honest estimate of both time commitment and possibly the number of large pieces of furniture. If the brother has vastly underestimated either, his brother slash brothers at the moment of realization retain a right to immediately leave his possessions wherever they are located. Board approved. Now, maybe it doesn't happen as much anymore, but we all get this, and it transcends time, right? You always get asked to help somebody move. Now, the older you get, the more people just pay movers. But when you're younger, you do get asked. And I got asked all the time. And part of this is like, oh, no, man, it's going to be like 30 minutes, 30 minutes. You get there, and it's three flights of stairs. And it's armoires. It's, you know, heavy stuff. And I'm like, come on. Big ass couches and beds. Yeah. All the shit from the 70s. Yeah. I'm like, what? I hope this brother's not listening. Well, it's more than one. But one particular one. It was a situation where I was like, man, I probably shouldn't even be here. Because it was a sort of a, they were moving in with another lady. And that lady was still married. And the person was... The husband was helping move. And I was like... Yeah, and I'm finding this out as I'm moving stuff because I'm talking to the... You know, so how do you know so-and-so? It's like, oh, that's... You know, I was like, oh, my God. This could be a triple homicide. And I don't want to be in the middle of this. And I don't want to... Yeah. So... That's the worst case scenario. But yeah, I think if you're going to ask somebody to help you move, be honest about what you're moving. Or say, hey, man, I just need you for this one particular item. Now, I've asked David to help me move a bunch of stuff here into the house. And he's always obliged and not appreciated, but he knew what it was. Well, I definitely think you should be upfront about what's being moved. I think that most of these scenarios, when I recall, are more closer to my late teens, 20s, that sort of stuff happening. Because then once you hit your 30s, you're like, hire a mover like everybody else, right? But... you know, for some people who don't want to pay for a mover or something like that, I'm willing to help you, but you do got to be upfront about what the hell we're going to do. Absolutely. And then there should be something on the other end of that. Are you buying me dinner? Are we having whiskey and cigars? Maybe all of the above? Pizza might not cut it. Pizza is not going to cut it. I mean, I like pizza too, but especially if you're getting like, you know, I don't want to put people on blast, but I don't do the dominoes. I mean, you better come through with some shit. Do they make you move the pizza box, too? Yeah, well, I'll be kicking that bad boy. Anyway, I think that that just kind of goes without saying. Maybe that ties into the other night code about just, what was it? Respecting... Um, or I guess maybe the thing about risk, you know, having mutual respect for the other people that are involved, right. Whether it would be drinks or time or all that stuff. I think, you know, night codes overall goes down to, it has like some, uh, very, it, it, it has, uh, categories, uh, Yeah. And the categories all fit. And if I was to boil it down into just one category, it's essentially being considerate. Yeah, being considerate of others. Yeah, just being considerate and knowing that you're affecting this other person that you should care about. Yeah. And as such, you should treat it as such. Right. And as a person, I don't want to take advantage of anyone, but I also don't want to be taken advantage of. Right. So when people, if you don't have, I don't know, the money you want to have to hire movers or to do whatever, yeah, man, I'm going to help you. If I got an opportunity to do that, just don't abuse that. Absolutely. And you know what? So I have my own idea, but so let's say you're not a person of means and you know the move is going to take you five, six hours, right? With four people helping or whatever. How should you approach that? So you're in that position. You don't have money, so you need the help. You need at least four people. And you know if you had four people there, it's going to take five, six hours. Are you asking me? Yeah, I'm asking you. So here are my strategies. These would be my strategies. If I was in a place where I needed help with... uh, with movers because movers sometimes, um, when you, depending on where you're going and how many flights of stairs and all the crap, right. That's involved with that, that, that could easily cost you 3,500 bucks. Oh yeah. Um, and if I don't have 3,500 bucks to do that, okay, cool. Let me call some fraternity brothers to help me come and do that. Um, but at the end of that, I should be willing to spend like, a decent amount of money on dinner and drink or whatever is going to be commensurate to what I think their time is worth over those five or six hours. I think that if I'm calling them to help me with this stuff, they are helping with the understanding that I don't have this endless supply of money. Yeah, so I would simplify it. I think at the end of the day, I think the biggest thing It's to just be transparent. Yes. Oh, yeah. Hey, DLH. Hi, man. I'm moving. Unfortunately, I'm on the third flight of the stairs. Yeah. And I got a heavy ass couch. And the last apartment on the left. I got a heavy couch. I have some old stuff, but that's all I got. And I got a big bed. It's probably going to take us about four or five hours to move all this stuff. I need your help. But it's mostly boxes that are going to be, I don't know, 50 pounds. And I'm going to say, I don't speak broken English. And you call me after you're done. But, you know, I think the thing is if we keep this in perspective, right? Like if I have to call you because I can't afford$3,500, I think that spending, I don't know, roughly 10% of that, right? If I get you in here and let me get you a good dinner and some drink and all that other stuff because we're doing that. And it would be okay. And even if I can't afford that, right? then what I'm going to do is I'm going to say, check it out. On a separate night, once this stuff is all in here, I'm going to have a separate night where I'm going to bring you all in here and I'm making dinner. There's going to be drinks. There's going to be food. I'm making it all for you, for helping me as a thank you. And I think it's okay to go Hey, remember when I helped you? It's time to get that get back. Don't worry about paying me back right now. I want you to save that. I think overall the underlaying thing is if you're just up front with what's going on. I think because then at that point, if that person, that bro chooses to do it, they knew what they got themselves into. So I know we're now starting a roundabout. So we've done four. Yeah, let's do the drum roll for your fifth and final night code choice. Number 50, correct? Are we doing drum rolls or no? Oh, yeah, I tapped, but I'm getting another beer here. Come on now. Okay, so let's wait. Let's wait for David. We're always waiting for him. He's never on time. This is for DLH. Yeah, go. Trying to help a bro out. Number 50. Okay, number 50. A brother shall designate the tag side of a bath towel as the clean side. If no tag is present, the seam side shall be designated as the clean side. If a brother cannot determine seam side, then the lighter color side of the bath towel is the clean side. Board approved. Playing on the inside, playing on the outside. Give me your thoughts on that. I think I picked this one purely for the comical sense of it. Because when I was reading it, I was... Did you ever think about it? I was laughing out loud. Yes, it makes perfect sense. It's just something that's never been said out loud. It's never been said, right? That's the beauty of these. It just is. And I think that's what made me laugh so hard. And I was like, yes, absolutely. This is what makes sense. Does this need to be written down? Because in my estimation, everyone does this. And if you're not doing this, you should be doing this. You should be doing it, yeah. So it was never a question in my mind that this is what should happen. And it wasn't until I was reading it where I was like, is this not what everybody does? I don't think so. I don't know. Like, I was looking at it. And the reason this came up is because we were going to do our camping trip, right? And I was like, we need one for camping. And it needs to be one, like, just a crazy one. Just something that has nothing to do with camping. But you take towels, right? Oh, man. It's a new sound that we got on the show. Yeah, that wasn't loud enough. It wasn't loud enough. Maybe the... What are you doing over there? That was the first sip. That was the first sip of a new beer. My bad. I missed the mark. So, anyway. Yeah, I think we released this right before we went to Legacy Weekend, which is camping the whole weekend. And it's like DLH is saying, I think everyone does this. If you don't, let us know. I know one specific brother that that guy uses like four towels. I don't know. He's like, you don't use four towels? I was like, no. I use the regular towel. It may be a washcloth. He goes, no, I have a towel for this and a towel for that. And I wish he was here to explain because I don't remember what the other two towels are for. Man, what about the environmental impact that he's having? That's what I'm saying. His carbon footprint is ridiculous. That's why you start in order, I guess. Yeah, which is what we need to do the podcast. Because the other thing that I found out about these two that I kind of talk to regularly is what they do and don't do. And they're like, you still use cologne? I was like, yeah, I still use cologne. I was like, do you not use cologne? They're like, we don't use cologne. I was like, yes, I'm funky, mofo. You know what I'm saying? So we need to do one on that. But yeah, he uses four towels. I'm going to ask him what the other two towels are for. But yeah, he has a whole... Maybe we need to invite him. Yeah. And he needs to defend himself. Well, I mean, I could see the division of some. For anybody who gets very particular about their face, because you don't want to use an ass towel on your face. That means you have an ass towel. That's the thing. Are you shoving that towel in your ass? I'm just assuming that somebody who uses four towels has to have... And even at that, you would have a face towel, an ass towel, and the rest of your body towel. So I still don't know what the fourth towel would be for. I don't know. I don't know. I was really... I was perplexed. We clowned him so much that we forgot to ask what the fourth towel is for. Now, I will say... I pay a pretty good amount at the gym I go to. When I go to that gym, I grab as many towels as I need to because I'm paying for them. So I'll grab one to go into the steam room. I'll come out, grab another towel to take a shower. I grab that towel to dry. Then I grab another towel to dry the other stuff. But that's understandable, though, because you're just utilizing services that you pay for. Yeah, and I use everything in there. But as far as, I think he said a washcloth. And a regular towel. And I want to say maybe a face towel? Well, the face would be specific because it would be sensitive. Why don't you start with your face and work your way downward? That's what I'm talking about when you work your way down, right? You start with the face. You do the hair, then your face, and then you go down and do the nether regions. And then you go do all those things. And now, once you work your way to the nether regions, you don't reuse that towel on your face. You're done. Absolutely. Single towel. But if you have a clean side, it doesn't matter. No, it still matters. No, it doesn't. It does. No, because it's the clean side. I know there's a clean side. I get it. The microbes crawl to the other side. But what I would say is maybe for peace of mind, never start with your ass and then move to the face. But if you have a clean side, it doesn't matter. Okay, I guess there's a partial point there, but still. But that's why this night coat is necessary. I would say, yes, yeah. But general practice. No, no, you go from top to bottom. Start with your face and then work your way down. Head, shoulders, knees, and toes. That one is, it's funny. Board approved, sure. Board approved. Yeah, absolutely. So let's round it out. Okay, so board approved. We did... Night code number 20. 24. 20, 24, 28, 30, and 50. And I'll write these, the entirety of the night code, in the description. If you really want to read them. Read them. But there you go. Those are Dr. DLH's top five night codes for 2025. I want to clarify that they're my top five that were not covered in. In the previous Night Code episode. There you go. They weren't covered because he wasn't here. That's right. Well, regardless. And he only had an idea. Concepts of a plan. Let it go. So there you go. Night Codes for 2025, 20, 24, 28, 30, and 50. Especially 50. Get a clean side of the towel. Board approved. Get the clean side of the towel. So thanks again, and we'll see you next time.