Episode 005 - Things Every Man Should Own (When You Get Your Own Home)

David, DLH, & Jaime discuss the things every man should own, specifically, when you get your own home.

1. Tools
2. Grill
3. Your own Space (Man Cave)
4. TV & Surround Sound
5. Bar
6. Weight/Fitness Equipment

Issue a verdict on the essential items.

Transcript

SPEAKER_00: 0:17

If by some chance, some stroke of luck, or some act of God, you have stumbled upon this broadcast, you are listening to The Chivalry Chronicles with your host, DLH, David, and me, Jaime. I hope you're ready, because I know we are. So let's get into it. Yay! So, DLH is back. Everyone rejoices. Good afternoon, gentlemen. It's good to see y'all. You seeing them, Jaime? I do see them. I don't see anybody. Damn. I see a couple mics in front of us. Two ugly guys. Always waiting to get a word in. I see you. So, I know we've had some discussion about, hey, who's David and who's DLH? So... DLH, do you want to introduce yourself again so that people know who you are? Not really. So this is DLH talking. That's me talking, yes. And if you listen to the distinguished tone, we'll call it cadence. Cadence, yeah. Of talk. Yeah, there's a distinct difference. There is. Yeah, I'm the one that shows up and you're the one that doesn't. Oh, wow. Wow, shots fired. But it takes you twice as long to get the same thought out. It's true that. It's a lot of time. We spent like an hour 15 for his 15-minute point. Or we wait a good 45 minutes before we even start a podcast because somebody can't get the mic that was correct. I have to strategically miss so that I give you all time to just catch up to what we need to be doing with the mic and for... Thoughts? I guess. So along the lines, today we're going to talk about things every man should own, specifically when you get your own home. So I know that was a discussion after one of our alumni meetings. We just were talking about it. So hey, let's put it on the podcast. So DLH, is there things that you should own as a man when you buy your own home? Or move out. Just move out of your dad's home. You know what? Universally, maybe even before you're thinking about it, you own a home definitely, but... tools that's i think there's a general one um it's just which tools tools now if we're going to start running through like categories i would say that the three when i think about it because i i carry a multi-tool multi-tool doesn't have a hammer but it has all the other things in there yours doesn't if you get there is a multi-tool that comes with the hammer but then that becomes really big in your pocket to carry with you uh but i think the The ones that are essential are there's a hammer, a screwdriver, and notice I said screwdriver, not drill. Drill will come later. If you got the money, by all means, do it. It comes with all the different things. But initially, you need a hammer, you need a screwdriver. Just one screwdriver? Yes. Phillips or flathead? You know what? If you had to choose one, the Phillips or the flathead, which one are you going with? Okay, now you're going to get me on my soapbox. The flathead screwdriver is nonsense. The fact that it was even created is but do you need it you don't I don't think you need it because if you get really if you if you have a nail butter knife or something like that it'll do the flat head as long as but is that the correct tool in there it's not but now like in in more in our modern society Phillips is more the one that absolutely no I agree with that you had to choose but screwdrivers are so cheap you can get one of each I don't think it's just get the whole set for 20 bucks And if you are going to pay attention to screwdrivers, if you can find some that actually are not even more expensive, but the ones that are also safe for electrical work. Or the ones with the magnetic tip. Yeah. Those are awesome. You guys are getting too expensive. No, no, no. It's not. It's not expensive. The magnetic one gets a little more expensive. But the ones that are for electric, like if you wind up doing electrical work, because they work for everything. You will have to do electrical work. You will have to. I mean, you shouldn't. But you're going to. Yeah, you want to save some money. Make sure you turn off the breaker switch when you do that. The breaker is that big panel in your garage, in your kitchen, in your washroom. Yeah. Yeah, but anyway, those are the ones. I would say that a hammer, because that comes in handy all the time, especially if you're using it in multiple ways, like a stud finder. A stud finder is great. No, no, I don't mean the stud finder. I mean like when you use the hammer as a stud finder. Oh, my God. Lord help this man. Now, again, if you can afford the stud finder, get the stud finder. It's cheap. But if you can't, and you had to pick the top tools, you need a hammer, you need a screwdriver, If you can get both the Flathead Phillips, then do that. I would trust neither one of you with a freaking hammer to be a stud finder. And you need pliers of some kind. Pliers, exactly, yeah. And then after that, you start getting fancy with like a tape measure. A tape measure is necessary, sir. It is, but I would say that that's number four. Everything else you can actually find. So you're just discussing tools in general. Yeah, either way you need tools. But the topic is things, so it's not just tools, right? Yeah, right, absolutely. But I would say that because... For tools, you've got that covered. Because you're going to use tools. Even if you come in later on with, I don't know, a barbecue pit, whatever it is, if something breaks... you're going to wind up fixing it. Tools, essentially, are going to be the things that you're going to need universally, regardless of what it is. Right. And I think to add on to the tools, I think sockets, that type of stuff, because even if you want to change the battery in your car, you need something other than a screwdriver and a hammer. But a wrench works. Well, you can get a wrench. This is why I'm saying, okay, so, and it just did. Okay, so. But some people can strip the crap out of them. Now, wait a minute. Yeah, because I think budget is really what it is. But we didn't talk about on a budget. We just said things you need. So I think probably all of us would agree if there was only one tool you could pick, it's going to be a hammer, right? Would you all agree with that?

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SPEAKER_00: 7:09

You could only choose one tool. One tool? Yeah. No, you can't just choose one tool. No, I would go for it. No, well, I know you can't, but this is a hypothetical question. So you can only get one tool that you're going to go into, do whatever. Probably a screwdriver then. I think you use a screwdriver more. If we're counting multi-tools, I would go multi-tools. Yeah, I have a multi-tool. That takes away from the hypothetical. I said one tool. That's a multi-tool. There's multiple tools on it. It's one tool though. The reason I say that is because obviously when you purchase your first home or you're just looking at tools in general, tools can get really expensive really quick. So if you really have to narrow it down. I think we're getting off topic. Well, on tools. So the topic is when you buy your own home, these are the tools you need or these are the things you need. No, I said things. Things every man should own. Okay. So tools is one. Like you should have tools. I mean, that's just the way it is. You should have tools. And you should definitely start with a hammer, screwdriver, a plier, a wrench. Yeah. maybe some sockets and then you can get, you can get crazy after that. And then after that, it's really, yeah. Um, I mean, what else do you need when you buy a home? When you buy a home and you move into your own home, what are the tools that are essential? Like you need. Now you said tools. So just want to make sure that we're sticking on that. Okay. I think we just mean items. Okay. Okay. Things originally was things. Okay. Just want to make that clear. So, uh, of course, outside of tools, I think, I think, uh, a thing that's really important is a dang sofa or a legit place to sit down. No, no, no. But that's furniture. Okay. No, I know what it is. But you said babies. Now it's things, right? Now that's worth saying. If we're talking about... But you assume that you have a house and it's furniture. Well, I assume you have tools, too. So your bedroom furniture is set, even if it's just simple. Yeah, you need curtains. I get all that. I'm talking about guys. You got a sofa. You got a TV. You got to have a sofa. And I say that specifically because whenever I moved from Amarillo to San Antonio. Milk crates work just fine. You start realizing there was like a, not a full month, but there was a delay from when the shippers were going to bring all our stuff from Amarillo to San Antonio. And Not having a legit place to sit as I needed to. OK, well, maybe I need to rephrase this. No, I need to rephrase this. I assume. No, I assume that your home is fully furnished. Like you have a stove. Absolutely. You have a refrigerator. You have a bed set. You have sofas. That's taken care of. I'm talking about the stuff that men need to do what men do. Right. So in my in my in my head, it was like you need a grill. You need tools. You need a lawnmower. You know, you know, I start to think about these things also from a monetary standpoint. Are we going like in general or are we pretending like we we got the money to do whatever we're doing? So. No, I think, well, the other thing I think that that. we need to say is that you acquire them over a certain amount of time you're not gonna unless you just are independently wealthy you're not just gonna buy all these things all at once i think so which are the things that you bought when like when you when you first moved out of your home graduated from college moved out of your home i don't know if you were married before then or whatever what are the things that you're like man i don't have that i need this That was that before, like you would go in your dad's garage and you just pick out a tool because he had everything or your dad had a grill. The conversation started because, so I was telling David, when we bought a home, my wife and I moved to San Antonio, bought a home here. I was like, I need a grill. I'd never grilled before. So I called my oldest brother and I said, okay, How do I do this? And so he walked me through it. And I thought, man, like I had never done this. So, so those are, I felt like as a man, you need a grill at some point. Right. Tools. I knew like, I bought those. I went out and bought all the tools that I needed. But a grill, I had no idea. I'd never grilled. My dad always grilled. When he didn't grill, my older brother grilled. When I was in college, you always have someone that grills. You go to parties, people are grilling. They never said, hey, Jaime, get on the grill. Because I'd have been like, yeah, you might want someone else on that thing. Well, definitely in Texas. Because when I moved back to Texas, I lived in New York State for 13 years. and in New York City for 10 of those. And, you know, of course, you don't grill over there. You just, you go to wherever. You don't grill in New York? No, because there's no, like, I lived in Manhattan. There is no space to do that. Not even with one of them little small kettles? You cannot do a hibachi because the fire code, and actually the fire code I think is very similar here. You have to have an open fire at least 30 feet away from a structure. Really? Yeah. So we can't do, and all we had was our little fire escape thing. Yet another reason New York sucks. It was great. You just can't grill it. Wow. I didn't know that. Thank you for that. So you couldn't do any of that. So when we moved back to Texas, right, and then we got here, and initially we were in a rental household. We were looking for wherever we were going to buy our house. But as soon as we moved into the rental, it was like in the first week or two, my father-in-law, he came over, right? Where's the grill? And I guess he noticed it. He didn't ask. He just noticed that it wasn't there. And the next time they came over, he was like, Hey, can you come and help me unpack this thing? That's awesome. Required to be in that space. And I was like, all right, cool. Thanks. You know? So I put it together and then I was like, is this because this is what we're supposed to have? Or is it because now that I'm here, you're not going to do any of that work and you're putting it on me and it might've been both. Yeah. So, so I think that's, that's awesome that your father, your father-in-law, that your father-in-law recognize that, like I, to me, that, that, that is, a father passing down like he needs this. So that definitely is on this list because another man told you you needed it. So it's kind of a community thing. Like, you know what I'm saying? So when I called my brother, he's like, first he laughed at me because, you know, we've talked about my oldest brother. He's the ultimate alpha male. And so he's like, what? You don't have a grill? So he had to give me shit about it. But then he told me like, okay, you know, get the grill. get the charcoal, do this and then, and then get it going. But to me, like, When someone, when another man tells you you need this, I think it kind of goes on the list. Yeah, yeah. You know? And especially now because of the things I've learned about grilling for steaks and everything with reverse searing or direct heat versus indirect heat. Oh, my God. It's ridiculous. It opens up a whole world. I hate that I've gone into it. And what made it even worse, one of our fraternity brothers is like the ultimate griller, Pete. Right. And he grows every time we get. He's really good. I will not disparage this man. He is awesome. Pete, if you're listening. Yeah, much love for you. Yeah, he's great. So so I asked him because I got rid of my gas grill, which I've had for 10 years and I was going to go back to charcoal. Right. And then so Pete just. obliterated that idea. He's like, oh, you should go a pellet grill. And I was like, what? I hadn't even looked at that. And so now I go back to the drawing board and erase everything I had and then look up pellet grills. Because now I've got to look that up. So to me, it's like, that's a good one. That to me is up at the top. And when Pete was bringing that up too, I think it's a... For me, having a... Propane grilling is just cooking outside. There's no added change in the taste of the food, whereas delivering it with charcoal or doing it with wood... I don't know. It tastes the same. If I cook it inside, the only difference is my house doesn't smell. No, it doesn't. With all of them, see, now we're getting into my issue. We're getting into grills. But I think that when you're cooking, if your flame is not right and you get it too high, because if you put the propane too high, you put the heat too high, and the meat is too close to it, you do catch that gassy taste in the meat. So there is a science to that. We'll leave that. Just get your grill get a grill they got you have the benefit nowadays of youtube to figure out how to do all this stuff on a uh in a well-educated way which we didn't have back then back then we just had to figure no we had to figure it out uh but that does lead me into my next one i do okay this one right here um is and it's a bit ambiguous um but i do think it's it's necessary is a um we'll just call it a man space, right? Some people might call it man cave. A man cave, yeah. A man cave. A she shed? Man cave gets a little bit more into affordability. Okay. Because if you can afford it and your house has the space for you to do that. We are currently in my man cave right now that has been infiltrated by my wife. I told her, I said, this is the only room I have in this house that has anything that's mine and you're moving in and I got to get you out. I got to put the, you know, I got to stop it right there. And she said, okay, and moved more stuff in. She didn't move stuff. She said, hey, you move the stuff in. Yeah, that's right. I'm just going to put some things in. We're going to borrow it a little bit. Yeah, that winds up being my office at home. But that was the thing is when we moved into our house now, I do have an office there. And oftentimes it winds up either housing some things where we don't yet know where they're going to go or some things that require assembly and I haven't yet put it together. Or every time the kids have a broken toy and they bring it into my workshop. I know. Air quotes for that one, workshop. But anyway, I do get to go in that space. Right now it's in transition because I'm adding more elements to it. But now because I was using it for doing my schoolwork, my doctoral things when I was writing, that would be my space to be a part. But now I get to use it with a TV in there, which is what I'm doing now. So when I want to watch football games and things like that that no one else wants to watch, I get to go into my space with a chair that I have selected and whatever drink or whiskey or bourbon that I'm drinking. I didn't even think about that one. That's a great one. But David, your whole house is a man cave, I would assume? Yeah, your whole house is a man cave. So how does that change for you? Well, the thing that I was going to bring up, And it falls into, I guess, a man cave, but you got to set your identity whenever you move into your home. Like there's got to be something that gravitates to you. If you're married, it becomes like, let's say a man cave. And even like me, like whenever I moved into the home that I'm in now, I wanted to decorate it. uh, in the sense of it's gotta be me. I didn't want it to be like overly bachelor pad. Like I didn't, I'm not in my freaking twenties or anything like that. So I didn't want it to look like that, but I think it's important to have elements. But you always come out with your bathrobe. Every time we go over there with, with a pipe and you know, like young Hugh Hefner. Yeah. No, I, my, uh, My choice would be you've got to set the identity for your home that has your signature on it. Well, see, so if I go back to my father-in-law, right, the house that they bought a house here in San Antonio to be closer to my kids, really, right, their grandkids. So they did that. And in the space, there was an extra room that I think he could have taken over, but instead, because my mother-in-law likes to do art and all that other stuff, he turned it into an art studio for him. Boo. Right? Boo on that. So he has two distinct spaces and neither one of them is a created man cave. He does two things. When he goes out and he grills, he put the lawn furniture, turf down so he doesn't have to mow the grass. He put turf down. He put lawn furniture. He has the cigar, the ashtrays over there. Yeah. He sits right next to the grill. There's a small space where his grill is sitting set up and he'll be grilling whatever it is. And with a cigar in hand and a drink in the other, and he sits on his patio furniture back there in the backyard. And then whenever he wants to, you know, I guess invite my mother-in-law, he turns on the backyard lights or whatever. Yeah, absolutely. But essentially he goes back there a lot when he's grilling and just stays there back there on his own. The other spot, which sometimes when we go over and we see him, is when we pull up in the driveway and he just has the garage door open and He's playing his music, right, on a small bench. He's in a corner of the garage, but the door is open. He's smoking a cigar, and he has a drink, and he's playing music, and he just sits there by himself, and he watches the neighbors. That is the greatest thing ever. You've got two neighbors that do that. Yeah, and I think it's like, you know, sometimes when you want just the time to yourself, you know, I tell my wife, I'm going to go fix something, and I go break something, and then fix it in the garage, you know, and just sit there and just... Smoke a cigar. I know one day I was messing with the bike, you know, the motorcycle, right? I was messing with the carburetor, and it was 2 a.m., and I was smoking a cigar, drinking beer, just cleaning the carburetor, and my wife opens the door. She's like, what are you doing? It's 2 a.m. And I'm like... It's been this is awesome. This is like, you know what I'm saying? Sometimes you do need some time. So the man cave or just as your space is. I mean, that's a great way. So I got one that kind of tags along the lines of a man cave, but different. And that is you got to have you got to have drinkware. You got to have your correct drinkware based on what you drink. So if it's beers or whatever, you got to have your koozies, your different types of koozies. If it's bourbon, you need to have the right glasses that complement it or anything. I think that's later on. I think that's 20, 30 years into it because I don't think you had drinkware. No, I don't think so. Maybe. It might be age specific because I think definitely when I was in my 20s, I didn't care what vessel I was drinking. Absolutely not. Yeah, those Red Solo cups were real huge in college. We won't put it in that fits this drink. But I think now that I'm in my 40s, yes, I have a vessel for everything. Agreed. I have a separate vessel for when I'm drinking canned beer. I have one for when I have to pour it into a mug. I have a specific one for that. You have the mug in the freezer that you pull out. Yeah, because you've got to be a refined gentleman. It's my frosted mug that you put in there specifically for that. But yeah, I have one for when I'm drinking... whiskey versus you know the others when you're drinking wine yeah i mean you you have to have wine glasses but that's but it's so my added context is it by the time you are getting a house yeah i think the drinkware does start coming in at that time you're old enough i mean are you getting a house at a 40 inch no no no no i mean i bought a house at like i think it was 25 and i didn't have shit for a drinkware uh when whenever i did you have people come over i mean you don't want you don't want to just be tossing them a red solo cup. Especially if you're at that point, because most people, you know, right out of the can or the bottle. Yeah, right out of the can. Well, like most people, whenever they're buying a home, it's usually they're married, right? So by that time, yeah, you're going to be a little bit more refined than just saying, oh, I think there's... I think there's a Fruity Pebbles cup that I picked up at the game that you can drink out of. Those are perfectly fine to drink out of, sir. Well, you know what? I think if we were going to segue it, right? Because if we're talking more old school, yeah. It's not necessarily old school. Well, if we're talking about the distinction, right? Because most of the time in old school, we got married. I don't think that our focus was necessarily buying a house as an individual person. Nowadays, it is. Yeah. Right? You do want to go out and buy a house. Ideally, you have one already either personally. purchased or in mind before you go and get married and do all that stuff. But I think if you're planning for the future, then yes, you should be making those smart purchases along the way. You should have the drinkware and essentially you're setting up the life and the culture that you want to live. None of them are needed. I think the drinkware probably falls into more your wedding registry because I know when I got married we did have wine glasses as part of it and some people did buy wine glasses like the the like the fancier cups and stuff like that but i mean i didn't have the the little bourbon you know little uh little glasses and stuff like that later now and i didn't either because i drank beer i mean beer is more simplistic but whenever i'm saying drink where i'm also talking about like having some dang koozies ready to go. People come over, that type of stuff. Hey man, that came from college. All kind of koozies. You know what? All of that starts coming in place. You're off this. You're off that ship. I don't like using, see, because the koozies, I think that they're unrealistic. DLH is holding up a koozie and just stated he doesn't like koozies. He's using a koozie. No, no, no. He's using a koozie. The difference between them, I have a, right now I'm holding a brumate one. Don't say that name until they sponsor. They sponsor, we'll say it. We may have to say Yeah, true, true. Right now, I'm holding up a Brumate one, and this one is an insulated one that fits multiple types of cans. So I subscribe to the Frost Buddy. If you want to sponsor me, Frost Buddy. I bought everyone I know a Frost Buddy. But you get these ones that are like the neoprene. Yeah, those are just great to keep in your back pocket or your truck, man. These are simply emergency. And the only reason I have them in there is so the condensation didn't get in the rest of the stuff. So for the record, you still use them? I do not use them when I'm drinking. But you have them. have them out of it because it makes the can unbalanced every time you sit it down it wobbles but is it yours i got one right here we can test it out no i'm good you can have this one because i already drank the beer i'll add it to my drink where they are useless to me all right so so beyond drink where so let's get let's get back on task yeah um Is there another one, David, that you had other than drinkware? Well, I had... Because I got a couple. I technically had two, so go ahead. No, no, no. I mean, well... Well, drinkware was one to kind of separate from man cave, and then I don't even remember what I had before. Okay. But I did have one before. One that I was going to throw out was lawn equipment. Yes. Yeah, that's a good one. Like, if you have a home, I would assume you have a lawn, and so you would have a lawnmower... It could be. Our first house, the whole back end of the house was all concrete, but we still had a yard that was about 10 by 12. But you still need at least a weed eater. Also, in the context of what society has put traditionally... The man is the one that's supposed to be doing the outdoor. According to my wife, anything outside the house is mine. It's not anything because do you do the gardening? We don't have a garden. We're saying essential. Because if it came to that, it's like, well, you're also doing like whatever. Well, because sometimes depending on who you marry to. It's Christmas lights. It's outdoor stuff. It's replacing light bulbs that are on the outside. Everything outside. I'm good with everything. It's getting the male. But when you have a wife or significant other or whatever that says, but I want a garden. Are you going to do that? You're probably throwing the piece work together to get the garden going. I'm probably doing everything except the planting, right? If you need something built to do that, I got you. Yeah, definitely. I don't know nothing about that, and I don't want to know. Now, I have bought her plants and then built the stuff around it to have her plants, but she waters them. So it's not a garden, but she does have stuff. I bought plants, too, but I had to be given a list of names and then go. I know. I just I just went and picked like I went to Home Depot and I said, give me stuff that doesn't die quickly. And they said perennials. They're all they're all sending you to the. Yeah. Yeah. So she does that. But but lawn equipment is good. Like a lawnmower. A weed eater, edger, probably a blower. And those are the four essentials. But if you really couldn't do anything, probably the weed eater can take care of most of everything. If you know how to do it. I have a neighbor that maintains his yard really well, but he does it all with a weed eater. A lot. Yeah. Awesome. So I, you know, I worked for my dad. in a company that we did, we mowed lawns. And so I can do just about anything with a goddamn weed eater. So it's, I think a weed eater is, is perfect, but I do have all of them. And they were actually, my dad came to my house and, And he saw my lawn. And the next time he came, he came with a lawnmower, a weed eater and an edger. He's like, yeah, you need it. Yeah, it was bad. It was bad. Now, when you get into these again in order, you absolutely need a lawnmower. Yeah, that's number one. What's number two? Weed eater. Weed eater. Takes care of everything else. Yeah, I would agree. A weed eater can take care of the edger. And in a blower. Because, and even if you can't. A broom does it, yeah. Well, you got a broom, but you can also just take the lawnmower on the sidewalk. Yeah, and then push it out, yeah. Yeah, so. And then you'd be an ass. Or you put a bag on the back of the lawnmower and it kind of will suck those grass. Yeah, but then you have to dump it. Or if you're allergic to everything and you got the money, just hire somebody. So. It gets. That's the other thing. You can hire people to do this, but people like probably the people in this room are probably going to make fun of you if you hire someone. Absolutely. If you hire someone. I mean, you could hire somebody to take care of all the stuff that you need with tools, right? I'll try not to do it to your face, though. So what I did. Did you plant synthetic grass? Or when I say plant, did you lay synthetic grass? Was it you? Oh, turf? Yeah. No, his dad did. His father-in-law. No, but at his house, too. Oh, you did. At my house, we... But there's a... It's a certain area that, like, between the house and our driveway that we wanted to use as, like, a... a sort of patio space where we can put lawn furniture down, and then a dedicated space where our dog, when we let him out in the backyard, doesn't go. So I had to put up another fence to partition that off from the rest of the yard, and then I laid the turf down to do that. So it's a specific space for that. You said you had two in the bag. What you got? For items? Yeah. Well, I want I want to continue with the synthetic. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. And they do all kinds of synthetic stuff because it's Arizona over there. So, hey, do what you do. I don't mind that. Still got to do work outdoors, though. Excuse me? You still got to do work outdoors, though. You got to do something. But getting back to our list, you do need lawn equipment. And we were saying if you hire someone, which for a time... I did have someone hire because, uh, the, I'll take it. I did. Um, cause what I do whenever I'd look at something, I was like, how long is it going to take me? And how much is this guy charging? Yeah. How much is my time? Is my time worth that much? Oh no, I definitely do that, but I don't do it with long. Usually most of the time I do that with, if anything is. like plumbing and electrical, the things where you're like... Yes. Because I also got to weigh in. Electrical, plumbing. Yeah, that's me 100%. And tree trimming. Tree trimming, I paid a... I paid an ungodly amount. I wish my dad worked. I mean, I wish my dad lived in San Antonio because I would pay him double to do some of this stuff. But I did, you know, we did have a guy come in and he was super cheap and I was like, cool. But then when my son got old enough and he was probably like 12, I was like, okay. And I think I called David and I said, David, I need a lawnmower. And he had a hookup because... Uh, at the time I had a gas lawnmower forever and that's the one I would use, but it would take me, you know, almost two hours to do everything. And this guy would come in and do it in like half the time. Cause he had two or three guys with him and he would charge me 40 bucks. And I'm like, with two guys. Yeah. And I'm like, you're in like, how long did it take them to cut it? About an hour. Because he would, he would, he'd come in with a big tractor. Yeah. And then just do everything and they'd be done. Yeah, but still 40 bucks with three. Yeah, that's that was a long time ago. So about about Six years ago is whenever my son started doing it You know, I taught him how to do it and I said I need a cut every two weeks So we talked about that before And that's how he earned a little bit of money And and that's how I paid someone but I I'm paying my son. That's how I got introduced to lawnmower. Well, at first it was all free. I'm there now, too. Yeah. My son, who's 13, and he wants money, and that's what we do now. Go cut the yard and trim it and all this other stuff, and then he gets paid for that so that he can do whatever he wants. Okay. So now I have paid lawn care. Yeah. So I wanted to make that distinction. You can pay someone, and it's okay if it's your... But as a man, you still need that outdoor stuff. But it's also... I don't know that I would categorize that as like... paid lawn care when when it's your son because we it is paid though it's money coming out of my account but we are also trying to teach them the things that we learned along the way and we well we had to do it for free we did it for free i did it for free whenever i had to be told to do it if i took initiative and mowed the yard on the weekly basis without my dad saying at first I got$20. If we took initiative, we just didn't get punished. Yeah, yeah, you didn't get your ass whooped. But, yeah, if you did it on your own, then you just were left alone. Yeah, like, I guess he moved along. You did your job. Good for you. Yeah. So, yeah, so I was telling my cousin, I said, she asked me, so how much do you pay your son? And I think at the time I was really lowballing him, and I was paying him$20. And she's like, what? It's$20? Fucking living on the streets. Yeah. And she's like, it should be 50. And I said, it could be zero. And she's like, well, you're right. Because her dad did the same thing. I think that's plenty. That's what I pay aside now. So he's moved up. I think we pay him 40 now. That started two weeks ago, but I said, you have to do everything. You have to do the lawn, pick up everything in the yard, weed eating, edging, and... The whole nine. And I said, and if I have an issue with it, then you got to redo it. So. He's freaking 17, so he should be doing it. Ages and stages, right? I pay him now for the concept of making money, but he doesn't know the full value of money. So when you're younger, do that. It's about the process. And what's funny is now he'll mull the law and he's like, go ahead and transfer that money over. He doesn't do cash. I don't know if y'all have gotten to that stage, but these kids do not do cash. He's like, Dad, transfer that money into my account. And then he Bye. My son now is working for a restaurant, and he's a busser, right? And he gets paid tips. And sometimes he'll get paid cash, or they give him cash. And he's like, Dad, I have like$60. Don't say that out loud. He's going to have to report it. Yeah. Too late now. Hypothetically. So anyway, he'll say, yeah. He says, I have like$60. Can I just give it to you, and then you can transfer the money? I was like, sure, sure. Just give me the money, and I'll transfer it. No, actually, that's exactly there. Yeah. I got birthday money or I got... Yeah. He was overwatering my in-laws' plants and he made money and he was like, if I could just give you the money, can you just put it in my account? I don't understand that. I do the same thing with Isaiah, but that kid, he's not really motivated by money. He'll just hand me the cash because I told him, hey, I got you. We went to the credit union and got set up on his account and all that other stuff. When we put money in there, he'd never... ask about it or anything uh so he'll get money and he'll just hand it to me and just do it so he's 14 yeah he's 14 okay i don't want to kick in especially whenever especially whenever he starts looking at girls so we've hit on a grill we've hit on power tools we've hit on lawn tools um i guess Wood stuff, I mean, we kind of hit on that with the power tools. Plumbing, we've kind of hit that because you need a wrench, a crescent wrench, that type of stuff, which kind of falls along the lines of tools because I know when I moved into the house, eventually you have to freaking mess with the toilet. Yeah, but I think that's those are largely your tools, your grill. You need your space to do all of these things. Yeah. Or to or to house them. Right. So most of the time, if you have a dedicated space in your house, that's one. The garage is essentially kind of your domain. That's your space. Yeah. So the other thing that I had now, we talked about the man cave, which was a good one. Something that I had to have. when I bought a house is like, I need a TV. I need a really good, I can't do the little, you know, 24, I need a, I gotta watch my sports. But are you talking about family room TV, though? No. It's in the family room, but it's my TV. That means when I come home... I'm commandeering and I'm watching whatever I want to watch. And it was... It used to be a general rule around the house, right? Before, we just had one big TV. And then... But now we have kind of TVs everywhere, so it's not that big of a deal. But before, I told my son, I said, when I get home, bounce. Like... I need this TV. Because one, it had the best sound. Because I had to have surround sound. I've always had really good surround sound. Maybe that should be on the list. Surround sound. It's on mine. TV and surround sound. That's the one. Are you putting that together or are you making that two separate? They got to be separate because sometimes the surround sound is not allowed. So, no. So in college, when I was in college, I had... I went and bought the whole 5.1. I had the rear speakers and all that stuff. So when I graduated and moved to a house, I brought all that stuff with me. I was like, look, I need the surround sound. I need to watch Star Wars. eating the full surround sound, finding Private Ryan or whatever. I need the full effect. I need choppers flying over my head, all that stuff. So at our old house, it was one room upstairs, and it was my room. That's where you watch football all day. You watch the Super Bowl. It was all that. So when we moved into this house that we're in, it's the living room. And I made sure that when they built the house, I said, give me... Actually, you'll see them here, like those little plates. Those are all speaker wire. This room in here is designed for 5.1, 6.1. So I wanted to have it wired. And so to me, I need full surround sound and a nice TV. Why you just have plates, though? Well, in here, because I never... Just to describe the scene, fellas, or folks that are listening, there's nothing but wall plates over that surround sound. I don't see a speaker. Because that's my office. So the other two places have speakers. The downstairs have speakers because I wanted to have everything in there. And I just did this one just in case. So by his own definition, you're not a man until... No, so downstairs are speakers. That's what I'm saying. I have the one room downstairs. It doesn't count. Yes, it does. Do I not have speakers downstairs? That's not up here, though. Hey, when we were watching TV earlier, you were playing it from your phone. What? Oh, man, you're hearing it here first, the truth. Lies. We had two people that have been listening to Trump too long. Oh, my God. They're eating the dogs. They're eating the cats. And here's the other thing. So I had to, is a TV and surround sound. I think you do need a good sound system. Now, it's expensive. I get it. A receiver is going to run anywhere between$200 all the way to... However much you want to spend. Onkyo, Denon, all that stuff is... Oh, yeah. That's high-end. It's high-end stuff. But speakers, they can get up there, too. So, you're going to spend anywhere between$1,000 to$2,000, depending on what you get. But you do need a good surround sound. I think so. And that was one of the first things I ever put in the new house. In the old house, I was like... We watch a lot of movies. I watch movies all the time. Um, I watch sports and I need, I need the whole experience. The other thing that I have on here is weights. I, you need them. I mean, sometimes it's, uh, you, you don't, you don't have money for a membership. I do have a membership now, but even with COVID, um, Back in 2020, the gym that I went to said, we're closed. You can't come here. So I had to add on to the weights that I had. I had the original just you buy a bar and 300 pounds. That's what it comes with. So I had to add on to it and get a squat rack and all that other stuff. But I think weights is... It's just you got to have that. But that's just me. Well, I mean, I'm a personal trainer, so you're not going to hear any argument from me. I have all the equipment at home. At home? Yeah. I have kettlebells. I have battle rope. Yeah, the battle rope that you brought. I have a Bosu, which is for stability and balance. quickness and agility. I have a water rower at home. I have equipment. But is that essential? Would you say that that's something that you need when you buy a house? I think that when you... that when you buy a house, if you have the means to get a dedicated space to do any of that, whether it takes up space in the garage or maybe you have an area in the backyard where you can do some of that stuff, I would highly encourage that. I do think that some of the other elements we talked about are a little more higher on the priority list, especially when you're young. without getting on a soapbox because when you get older and you lose muscle mass and balance and all those other things, yeah, the older we get, the more important it is for you to continually strength train and to work out. Whether you do that in a gym or you do it on your own at home, do it. So, yeah, I would say that once you have the priority elements, the tools, the grill...

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grill, yeah. Right. And then, you know, like whether it comes before or after, like the entertainment package or whatever. Yes. Yeah. And I think that's a matter more of priority and how you live your life and what you prioritize. And but but essentially, if you're able to do them all in order, like it would just switch the order of them. But yes, I would say that having. Yeah. Something like that. David, do you disagree with the. Just I don't I don't disagree with what the importance of exercising and doing that. It's essential. I totally agree with that. I personally don't have any of that. Well, I do have that equipment. And or I've had it over time. So it is essential. So you're not a man? The reason I'm saying no or not kind of saying no is that I realized it's better for me to physically go to a gym. Like I do a better workout when I go to a gym. Versus whenever I do it at my house. Yeah. That's the only thing. If you can get to a gym or whatever you like to do, do it. Absolutely. Yeah. But in an instance where, even if we're talking about pandemic, pandemic- I think that changed a lot. You get to do it on your own, right? If you wind up, I don't know, let's say that because we're talking about somebody younger who is entering a new career or a different job that now limits the amount of time that they have to do that, you still have it at home. And just because you're doing that, your workouts don't need to be an hour and a

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No, I get that. But I would also make the argument that you can and do some very simplistic stuff that requires just random things at your house. Oh, yeah. Yeah, you can sit and be fit. I mean, a lot of our general parks, so during the pandemic, whenever you couldn't go to the gym, I picked up running a bit more. On a lot of the trails that were here didn't cost anything. There's pull-up bars. There are different little items there. You can do a lot of body weight stuff. If you don't mind looking foolish to the neighbors, you can cut your lawn and lunge walk at the same time. What's funny is that whenever I was doing kickboxing or whatever, I really got into jump roping because I never was any decent at it, and I still can't do any tricks with the jump rope, but I was able to jump rope for five, ten minutes without stopping. Well, that's good. Tricks are not necessary. Tricks are for kids. The thing that happened, though, is one night, I remember I was at my house, and I was like, okay, my ceilings and the space, I got eight-foot ceilings in most of my house.

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And there was certain spots where it was like, okay, I really can't jump rope here. There's either furniture or something like that. So I went outside and I started jump roping and then all these cars are passing by and just my self-conscious was like, man, I look like an idiot. But you're just jump roping. I know, I know. And I was jump roping, jump roping. So I have that. But yeah, I think there's some very simple Well, you know what? If you have a manly garage, and you're still jump roping as long as you open the garage door and people can see that you have manly things in there like mama I'm not going to think or say nothing because that's a man yeah right so maybe that's what you need next time is just open your garage door but David was was jumping rope in the skirt though so so that's what he felt to tell you so don't do that you know wear just regular gym equipment you know just like shorts and a t-shirt to say I'm a man you know we're about to put that sound We have a soundbite of DLH in here. We have a soundbite. Women listeners here, there's nothing wrong with jump roping and a skirt. Maybe. Maybe, maybe, maybe. Unless you're Dave doing it. Yeah, that's terrible. So I think you're going to get a lot of that because of COVID changed a lot of things about working out. And Here's here's one of the reasons is because prices for home equipment went all the way up. I mean, it was ridiculous stuff that you could spend on for weights were double the price. And so I think. I think people that went through that, which is everyone, you did see a change from going to a gym to doing home gyms. And there's other things, not just weights. There's other equipment that you can use. But I thought those were pretty good. Anything else that you guys can think of as far as things that you would need as a man? when you buy your own home. So we had a grill, power tools, lawn tools like lawn mower and that type of stuff. Man cave, I think was one. I said drinkware. Drinkware, which is still on the fence. Yeah, you know what? Maybe if we turn drinkware into a bar. A bar. Okay. Let's see. No, it's not. You have a full countertop bar? I do, yeah. Well, I mean, not the island in the middle of the kitchen or something. No, no, no. I have a bar. How come you don't? Where's the invite? Well, I don't know. We've never been to his house. It's my bar. You got that fancy synthetic grass. It's a VIP bar. We can't get in there. No, I have a space in there. They're right across from each other. They're nothing fancy. Whatever. You got that synthetic grass, bro. But I have my space on one side where it's like my coffee bar, right? Because I'm very serious about coffee. And you know I like coffee. Wow. I still don't know. So I have one side where it's my coffee bar, and actually using my tools, I used some wood from when we had an addition put on our house. I took the old wood from the house, which was constructed in 1936. I took that wood, and then I repurposed it and turned it into a... a coffee mug rack. Nice. Yeah, I wouldn't know, bro, because I haven't been there. It's a big shelf. So what's your address so all the listeners can go over there and have coffee? So I have my coffee bar on one side and then on the other side is where I keep all of the specific drinkware that has all of the other types of glasses where I have and actually a cutting board that I can't bring myself to cut on. I made it. It's the only thing I've made and woodwork like that. Well, I made the... coffee mug rack, but I made the cutting board and that I use that as my space to house the bottles that I have there, uh, with a bar mat and then all the drinkware that's there. So I use that whole counter space, um, even with a specific type of like crushed ice. I have that like an ice maker you do, but it makes a little pellet ice for anybody who likes that. And I make all the drinks there on that. So then we're adding a bar to it. And then the other thing we had is a TV and surround sound. Is that essential? Yeah. If we're going to... I mean, if we're going to... partition because we're talking about essential right yeah I think that when you get into affordability right like you got to have tools you got to have the long stuff and then at minimum you have to have a space where you can go yeah and be on your own decompress right yes and do all of that I think that those are minimal expectations of a and then the upper echelon I guess is the bar once you reach a point where you You upgrade your space. You get any entertainment things that you have. You get the weight equipment. Perhaps a poker room like we have here. All that stuff. And those are things like you also don't need to have the money to purchase the things if you can find the time within your space to make it. And then you have pride in that. Right. You've made whatever that is. That item is. Okay. Well, there you have it, folks. Board approved. Here's your list. A grill, power tools, a man cave, a bar, and TV surround sound later on, and possibly some weights. So those are the things that you need as a man. uh when you basically get your own house so we we agree on that the board approved i don't know what dlh what you got yeah that sounds great to me yeah i'm a yes okay there you go board approved uh we yeah let's where's the we need the gavel we need i don't i don't have a sound effect so there you go this isn't a wood table i was trying to do like mp with the ring yeah board approved uh thank you for listening We'll see you next time. Thanks for listening. If you enjoyed this episode and you'd like to help support the podcast, please share it with others, post about it on social media or leave a rating and review. To catch all the latest from us, you can follow us on Instagram and Twitter. Thanks again and we'll see you next time.